holley runing rich all the time

[barnett468 418]

ok i'll keep checking in.

[barnett468 418]

ok i'll keep checking in.

[juit 34]

befor a dissasamble it I put it to 14 and rev it to 3000 it went to 30

 

after that I think it didnt went to idle because it set at 12

[juit 34]

befor a dissasamble it I put it to 14 and rev it to 3000 it went to 30

 

after that I think it didnt went to idle because it set at 12

[barnett468 418]

befor a dissasamble it I put it to 14 and rev it to 3000 it went to 30

 

after that I think it didnt went to idle because it set at 12

 

 

ok, progress...drive it and tell me what it does.

 

 

sorry but i don't understand what you are saying.

 

 

are you using a cell phone to view the site?

 

what exactly did you do?

 

why did you change if from 14 to 12?

 

what timing does it idle best at?

 

 

you had it at 14 this morning and yesterday and it idled fine.

 

if you can tell me what rpm it reaches 30 at it would be helpful.

 

if it does not reach 30 until after 2200 - 2400 rpm then you have a monster spring in there.

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Edited October 26, 2014 by barnett468

[barnett468 418]

befor a dissasamble it I put it to 14 and rev it to 3000 it went to 30

 

after that I think it didnt went to idle because it set at 12

 

 

ok, progress...drive it and tell me what it does.

 

 

sorry but i don't understand what you are saying.

 

 

are you using a cell phone to view the site?

 

what exactly did you do?

 

why did you change if from 14 to 12?

 

what timing does it idle best at?

 

 

you had it at 14 this morning and yesterday and it idled fine.

 

if you can tell me what rpm it reaches 30 at it would be helpful.

 

if it does not reach 30 until after 2200 - 2400 rpm then you have a monster spring in there.

.

Edited October 26, 2014 by barnett468

[juit 34]

idles best at 14

 

I just went and advanced from 6 to 14

 

then rev the car to 3000 the deg went up to 30 at this rpm range

 

feals strng but I now have the vacum adv disconected wich is wierd

 

 

do I take the hose out? it idles wierd because when I rev it the degrees will go to 12 instead of 14 if I turn it off and on it will be set at 14

 

I think because the heavy spring is disconected

Edited October 26, 2014 by juit

[juit 34]

idles best at 14

 

I just went and advanced from 6 to 14

 

then rev the car to 3000 the deg went up to 30 at this rpm range

 

feals strng but I now have the vacum adv disconected wich is wierd

 

 

do I take the hose out? it idles wierd because when I rev it the degrees will go to 12 instead of 14 if I turn it off and on it will be set at 14

 

I think because the heavy spring is disconected

Edited October 26, 2014 by juit

[barnett468 418]

do not remove the rubber yet. we may be almost done.

 

i need to know what rpm it reaches 30 at.

 

turn your rotor slightly and tell me if there is much resistance from the spring.

 

try to turn your points plate slightly. if it moves easily at all that stupid dual vacuum can is screwing you up too. i told you its a pos nightmare. i hate those bleepin things.

 

 

1. do you feel a little freeplay before the spring engages when you turn the rotor?...yes . no.

 

2, did it run really good?...yes . no

 

3. did it make any pinging noise when you floored it?... yes . no

 

4. you set timing to 24 then revved it and it went exactly to 30?...yes . no

 

5. you rechecked your timing after revving it and it returned to 12 instead of 14?...yes . no

 

 

 

if the spring tension on the rotor is extremely lite or there is freeplay in it then bend the outer spring tab out around 1/8 inch. i think you can run it just with 1 spring.

 

buy the right vacuum can and put it on.

..

 

 

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Edited October 26, 2014 by barnett468

[barnett468 418]

do not remove the rubber yet. we may be almost done.

 

i need to know what rpm it reaches 30 at.

 

turn your rotor slightly and tell me if there is much resistance from the spring.

 

try to turn your points plate slightly. if it moves easily at all that stupid dual vacuum can is screwing you up too. i told you its a pos nightmare. i hate those bleepin things.

 

 

1. do you feel a little freeplay before the spring engages when you turn the rotor?...yes . no.

 

2, did it run really good?...yes . no

 

3. did it make any pinging noise when you floored it?... yes . no

 

4. you set timing to 24 then revved it and it went exactly to 30?...yes . no

 

5. you rechecked your timing after revving it and it returned to 12 instead of 14?...yes . no

 

 

 

if the spring tension on the rotor is extremely lite or there is freeplay in it then bend the outer spring tab out around 1/8 inch. i think you can run it just with 1 spring.

 

buy the right vacuum can and put it on.

..

 

 

.

Edited October 26, 2014 by barnett468

[juit 34]

idle 12

1500 18

2000 21

2500 25

3000 30

3500 35

 

I think it has set at 12 at idle it wont vary now so Im leaving it at 12 for the moment

 

 

the plate feals stiff with the vac adv leg "no hoses connected"

 

the engine feals strong

 

the plate has been greased so I think thats why it can be moved but it takes some effort

 

no ping noises

 

no using pc I come to the house to check msgs

Edited October 26, 2014 by juit

[juit 34]

idle 12

1500 18

2000 21

2500 25

3000 30

3500 35

 

I think it has set at 12 at idle it wont vary now so Im leaving it at 12 for the moment

 

 

the plate feals stiff with the vac adv leg "no hoses connected"

 

the engine feals strong

 

the plate has been greased so I think thats why it can be moved but it takes some effort

 

no ping noises

 

no using pc I come to the house to check msgs

Edited October 26, 2014 by juit

[barnett468 418]

idle 12

1500 18

2000 21

2500 25

3000 30

3500 35

 

the plate feals stiff with the vac adv leg "no hoses connected"

 

the engine feals strong

 

the plate has been greased so I think thats why it can be moved but it takes some effort

 

no ping noises

 

no using pc I come to the house to check msgs

 

 

wow ok almost done finally.

 

you have a massively strong spring.

 

do not reinstall the other spring.

 

do not remove the rubber.

 

do not connect the vacuum hoses.

 

 

is it a little faster or a lot faster?

 

is there a big difference in idle between 12 and 14?.

 

does it restart easily at 14 when it is warm?

 

do you have more green lites when cruising at a steady speed of 40 mph?

 

 

 

1. try to adjust the fuel mix screws with the timing at 12 and tell me if it idles better.

 

2. now reset timing to 14.

 

3. find a safe street

 

4. from a dead stop mash the pedal hard to the floor up to 40 mph.

 

5. from around 20 mph, out it in second gear and mash the pedal to the floor up to 40 mph.

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Edited October 26, 2014 by barnett468

[barnett468 418]

idle 12

1500 18

2000 21

2500 25

3000 30

3500 35

 

the plate feals stiff with the vac adv leg "no hoses connected"

 

the engine feals strong

 

the plate has been greased so I think thats why it can be moved but it takes some effort

 

no ping noises

 

no using pc I come to the house to check msgs

 

 

wow ok almost done finally.

 

you have a massively strong spring.

 

do not reinstall the other spring.

 

do not remove the rubber.

 

do not connect the vacuum hoses.

 

 

is it a little faster or a lot faster?

 

is there a big difference in idle between 12 and 14?.

 

does it restart easily at 14 when it is warm?

 

do you have more green lites when cruising at a steady speed of 40 mph?

 

 

 

1. try to adjust the fuel mix screws with the timing at 12 and tell me if it idles better.

 

2. now reset timing to 14.

 

3. find a safe street

 

4. from a dead stop mash the pedal hard to the floor up to 40 mph.

 

5. from around 20 mph, out it in second gear and mash the pedal to the floor up to 40 mph.

.

Edited October 26, 2014 by barnett468

[juit 34]

its going to take some time to go to a safe street

 

it idles perfect and starts with 14

[juit 34]

its going to take some time to go to a safe street

 

it idles perfect and starts with 14

[barnett468 418]

can you get it to idle perfectly with 12?

 

 

i added more info questions to my post above. please read it again. i need more answers

 

there is no point in doing anything else until you test it on a safe street unless you want to set the timing to 19 and accelerate slowly to 40 mph then drive at a steady speed and see if you get one more green lite.

 

return timing to 14 after test if it does not ping at 14 and if it idles better at 14.

 

your vacuum can no longer affects your idle. this is fine until you buy the right one.

.

Edited October 26, 2014 by barnett468

[barnett468 418]

can you get it to idle perfectly with 12?

 

 

i added more info questions to my post above. please read it again. i need more answers

 

there is no point in doing anything else until you test it on a safe street unless you want to set the timing to 19 and accelerate slowly to 40 mph then drive at a steady speed and see if you get one more green lite.

 

return timing to 14 after test if it does not ping at 14 and if it idles better at 14.

 

your vacuum can no longer affects your idle. this is fine until you buy the right one.

.

Edited October 26, 2014 by barnett468

[juit 34]

idles the same in city rich mixture

 

at 65 miles 5th gear the AFR leans too much that it dissapears :0

 

way too agressive

 

feals very strong at launching from 0

 

no pings no hessitations

 

but smells a lot of gas fumes because of the lean mixture

 

should I wait for the mr gasket springs?

 

after it warmed I had some problems starting it so I backed out to 12 again or I could leave it at 10 like the mechanic left it

 

I contacted this guy on the web and he responded this:

 

Juan,

 

 

Link to my site for curving instructions.

 

http://www.reincarnation-automotive.com/Duraspark_distributor_recurve_instructions_index.html

 

 

You should not have more than about 20 to 22 degrees mechanical and 14 degrees initial.

 

Have you checked total timing on your balancer?

 

Thank you for choosing RHP,

 

Regards,

Scotty J. aka The Mad Porter

253-988-6648

http://www.R-H-P.biz

 

See us on Facebook

Edited October 27, 2014 by juit

[juit 34]

idles the same in city rich mixture

 

at 65 miles 5th gear the AFR leans too much that it dissapears :0

 

way too agressive

 

feals very strong at launching from 0

 

no pings no hessitations

 

but smells a lot of gas fumes because of the lean mixture

 

should I wait for the mr gasket springs?

 

after it warmed I had some problems starting it so I backed out to 12 again or I could leave it at 10 like the mechanic left it

 

I contacted this guy on the web and he responded this:

 

Juan,

 

 

Link to my site for curving instructions.

 

http://www.reincarnation-automotive.com/Duraspark_distributor_recurve_instructions_index.html

 

 

You should not have more than about 20 to 22 degrees mechanical and 14 degrees initial.

 

Have you checked total timing on your balancer?

 

Thank you for choosing RHP,

 

Regards,

Scotty J. aka The Mad Porter

253-988-6648

http://www.R-H-P.biz

 

See us on Facebook

Edited October 27, 2014 by juit

[barnett468 418]

stop looking for timing info on the internet lol, however he is correct about initial and mechanical and you have 12 initial and 19 mechanical.

 

you can not run more than around 8 vacuum on your engine.

 

 

i don't know what you are saying.

 

what is too aggressive?

 

is your car too fast now?

 

does it run better or not?

 

does it run perfect or not?

 

does your afr show that it is leaner like i said it would be or is it the same?

.

Edited October 27, 2014 by barnett468

[barnett468 418]

stop looking for timing info on the internet lol, however he is correct about initial and mechanical and you have 12 initial and 19 mechanical.

 

you can not run more than around 8 vacuum on your engine.

 

 

i don't know what you are saying.

 

what is too aggressive?

 

is your car too fast now?

 

does it run better or not?

 

does it run perfect or not?

 

does your afr show that it is leaner like i said it would be or is it the same?

.

Edited October 27, 2014 by barnett468

[juit 34]

Just on top speed, but is a lot leamer at this speed

[juit 34]

Just on top speed, but is a lot leamer at this speed

[barnett468 418]

i have no idea what you are saying i can not help you unless i understand you . . . i do not know what you want or need now.

 

you do not need the mr gasket springs now because your timing is perfect. the springs may make it worse.

 

if your afr reads lean now at steady 60 mph speed, your car runs so good you need bigger jets, not smaller ones.

 

it will be slightly leaner with the vacuum advance.

 

if anything, you might try just 1 size larger main but as i mentioned, do NOT trust your afr . . trust your performance . . if it runs perfect then it is tuneed nearly perfect.

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Edited October 27, 2014 by barnett468