1BAD351 21 Report post Posted April 1, 2013 So after much research I have decided to shy away from swapping a T-56 into my car and go with a TKO. I picked up a TKO 600 and blow proof bellhousing with clutch fork, but so far that is all I have for the swap. I currently have a 351w with a c6 auto trans. Is there a parts list somewhere as to what else I will need? Also does anyone have any tips for me as far as how to do the swap or what to and not to buy? This is my first trans conversion so talk to me like I'm an idiot. TIA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwcstang 201 Report post Posted April 1, 2013 call Bruce from moderndriveline he absolutely the best, I will be going with their conversion kits. I herd good and bad about keisler. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckeyeDemon 211 Report post Posted April 2, 2013 some items you may or may not need that come to mind (don't know all of the official names): 1. T/O bearing/flywheel/clutch/pressure plate/bushing 2. fork fulcrum 3. safety/block plate 4. transmission crossmember 5. transmission rubber isolator 6. engine pivot ball 7. frame pivot bracket 8. z-bar 9. lower z-bar linkage 10. upper linkage rod 11. brake/clutch pedal assembly 12. slip yoke/driveshaft 13. shifter/shifter boot 14. shifter lever/knob 14. manual transmission electrical harness 15 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1BAD351 21 Report post Posted April 2, 2013 Shot the guys at Modern Driveline an email. I'll see what they have to say. This swap is looking like it's going to cost quite a bit more than I thought it was going to haha. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Machspeed 219 Report post Posted April 2, 2013 Shot the guys at Modern Driveline an email. I'll see what they have to say. This swap is looking like it's going to cost quite a bit more than I thought it was going to haha. I think you will find them to be very helpful. I dealt personally with Bruce and he is on top of his game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1BAD351 21 Report post Posted April 4, 2013 Still no response from them. Does Bruce have a direct e-mail? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwcstang 201 Report post Posted April 4, 2013 hrm I don't have his direct email, but he is usually the one answering emails and calls. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan_Mac 48 Report post Posted April 4, 2013 Another option is to buy an upgraded TKO from Liberties Gear. Keisler's TKO trans mount is very good. I would also use a hydraulic clutch setup. I don't know if you can parts separately from Keisler w/o purchasing the full blown kit. I would give them a call. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1BAD351 21 Report post Posted April 5, 2013 I didn't plan on a hydrolic setup. I see no need for one, just complicates thing and costs more. I also like the feel of a manual clutch better. I DD a 400 HP 2000 GT with the same clutch I plan on using in my 69 and it's not bad at all. Does anyone recommend going hydrolic? If so why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan_Mac 48 Report post Posted April 5, 2013 Not trying to push Keisler but I do like some things about their setup. I have the Keisler concentric cylinder on the front of my TKO. It works great. Very smooth operation. Some of the benefits as stated from Keisler are. Smooth pedal effort due to in-line motion of bearing along axis of travel, and low mechanical loss caused by friction of moving parts. You can actuate our 650HP clutch plate with one hand! Dramatic simplification and reduction in moving wear items Less maintenance and lower operating cost Bolt-on, easy installation compared to mechanical system, making automatic conversions far easier. Dramatically more clearance for headers (I agree with this benefit) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RPM 1,190 Report post Posted April 5, 2013 Good luck with the swap. FWIW, with your engine and new tranny, I would seriously consider swapping out the 8" for a 9" with traction lock or a locker. Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Machspeed 219 Report post Posted April 6, 2013 Still no response from them. Does Bruce have a direct e-mail? I still have our correspondence. Below is that email address. He was always quick to respond. You may want to call him: 208-453-9800 ext 101 Info@moderndriveline.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1BAD351 21 Report post Posted April 8, 2013 Good luck with the swap. FWIW, with your engine and new tranny, I would seriously consider swapping out the 8" for a 9" with traction lock or a locker. Bob Already have a 3.91 posi 9" waiting to go in ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1BAD351 21 Report post Posted April 9, 2013 Not trying to push Keisler but I do like some things about their setup. I have the Keisler concentric cylinder on the front of my TKO. It works great. Very smooth operation. Some of the benefits as stated from Keisler are. Smooth pedal effort due to in-line motion of bearing along axis of travel, and low mechanical loss caused by friction of moving parts. You can actuate our 650HP clutch plate with one hand! Dramatic simplification and reduction in moving wear items Less maintenance and lower operating cost Bolt-on, easy installation compared to mechanical system, making automatic conversions far easier. Dramatically more clearance for headers (I agree with this benefit) Is it really easier to install the hydrolic setup than a manual setup? Is it also cheaper to do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mach1jim 10 Report post Posted April 9, 2013 MDL has a clutch kit pedal and all, im going with a teflon coated cable drove one, smother than manuel and takes very little space and your scatter shield has a hole allready set up for it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan_Mac 48 Report post Posted April 9, 2013 Is it really easier to install the hydrolic setup than a manual setup? Is it also cheaper to do? I can speak for the concentric internal hydraulic cylinder. Installation was easy. Adjustments included, a)changing the internal spacer b) adjusted the clutch pedal rod, and bleeding the line. There are options for both Z bar (Ford, Modern driveline)and hydraulic (internal, external cylinder). I don't think any option is cheap, it can get more expensive if you have to buy new headers to fit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1BAD351 21 Report post Posted April 10, 2013 MDL has a clutch kit pedal and all, im going with a teflon coated cable drove one, smother than manuel and takes very little space and your scatter shield has a hole allready set up for it Do you have a link to the kit you bought? I actually have a clutch peddle in my fastback that I'm going to rob, because that car is probably going to stay an auto. I can speak for the concentric internal hydraulic cylinder. Installation was easy. Adjustments included, a)changing the internal spacer b) adjusted the clutch pedal rod, and bleeding the line. There are options for both Z bar (Ford, Modern driveline)and hydraulic (internal, external cylinder). I don't think any option is cheap, it can get more expensive if you have to buy new headers to fit. Do you have any pics of your install by chance? How exactly does it go in? I'm very new to all of this and don't want to screw myself over. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan_Mac 48 Report post Posted April 10, 2013 send me a PM with your email address and I'll send you all the keisler installation instructions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
latoracing 256 Report post Posted April 10, 2013 Fixin' to go there myself, borrowed this set-up from one of my friends. My floor is out of my car (going to put in a one piece floor pan) and it is a perfect time to do what ever mods to the tunnel area, and to build a cross member. Talked to Bruce yesterday at Modern Driveline (nice guy) about a new system, ought to be fun... Good luck with your C-6 to TKO swap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1BAD351 21 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 Fixin' to go there myself, borrowed this set-up from one of my friends. My floor is out of my car (going to put in a one piece floor pan) and it is a perfect time to do what ever mods to the tunnel area, and to build a cross member. Talked to Bruce yesterday at Modern Driveline (nice guy) about a new system, ought to be fun... Good luck with your C-6 to TKO swap. Are those newer Mustang brakes on the floor there? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
latoracing 256 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 Are those newer Mustang brakes on the floor there? SN-95 (actually 1995) assy. They were for a Fox body project I had, why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1BAD351 21 Report post Posted April 12, 2013 SN-95 (actually 1995) assy. They were for a Fox body project I had, why? Ah, was wondering if you were adapting them to a 69. I've got a set off my 2000 and was hoping they would fit my 69 easily haha. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
panteramatt 1 Report post Posted April 19, 2013 Someone makes a bolt on kit for the sn95 calipers, I have them on mine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramair351 10 Report post Posted April 19, 2013 i have a tko600 in my 70, cable clutch. here are some pictures of my install Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
