barnett468 418 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 ok all i can suggest is that you try what i suggested or just leave it and get the right vacuum can . and try 1 jet smaller on your front main. .. if you leve it like this set your new vacuum can so it adds arounnd 12 degrees but you will be way down on power. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 ok all i can suggest is that you try what i suggested or just leave it and get the right vacuum can . and try 1 jet smaller on your front main. .. if you leve it like this set your new vacuum can so it adds arounnd 12 degrees but you will be way down on power. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juit 34 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 how much I need to bump my degrees at what rpm? also should I buy a spring kit? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juit 34 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 how much I need to bump my degrees at what rpm? also should I buy a spring kit? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) did you plug both vacuum ports on your vacuum can? both ports must be plugged. . i hate those dual cans. i will give you a simple answer . . i would like to see 14 at idle and a total of around 30 to 34 and i want it to reach total timing at 2800 to 3000 rpm. . this is a very common setting there is nothing unusual about it but we must first find out why you only have 24 degrees at 3000 rpm so you need to do my test if you want to. heres a spring kit you can try but i would remove the loose spring first and test it. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mrg-925d/all/make/ford after testing it, instead of buying new springs or for a temporary time the other option is to bend the tab on your big loose spring inward slightly. they sare designed to be bent and there is actually a hole in the points plate that you use to stick a screw driver in to bend them if needed. . Edited October 25, 2014 by barnett468 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) did you plug both vacuum ports on your vacuum can? both ports must be plugged. . i hate those dual cans. i will give you a simple answer . . i would like to see 14 at idle and a total of around 30 to 34 and i want it to reach total timing at 2800 to 3000 rpm. . this is a very common setting there is nothing unusual about it but we must first find out why you only have 24 degrees at 3000 rpm so you need to do my test if you want to. heres a spring kit you can try but i would remove the loose spring first and test it. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mrg-925d/all/make/ford after testing it, instead of buying new springs or for a temporary time the other option is to bend the tab on your big loose spring inward slightly. they sare designed to be bent and there is actually a hole in the points plate that you use to stick a screw driver in to bend them if needed. . Edited October 25, 2014 by barnett468 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juit 34 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 Why plug the 2 ports? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juit 34 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 Why plug the 2 ports? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) oh pleeeese just throw that #@#! thing in the trash. its complicated to explain but the rear port sucks it rearward when the engine is running and the front port is plugged which retards the timing. it is impossible to time your engine with that connected. That is for smog. you do not need it. Edited October 25, 2014 by barnett468 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) oh pleeeese just throw that #@#! thing in the trash. its complicated to explain but the rear port sucks it rearward when the engine is running and the front port is plugged which retards the timing. it is impossible to time your engine with that connected. That is for smog. you do not need it. Edited October 25, 2014 by barnett468 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juit 34 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 So its better to just uninstall it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juit 34 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 So its better to just uninstall it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juit 34 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 This is what we are trying to do? http://www.reincarnation-automotive.com/Duraspark_distributor_recurve_instructions_page-2.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juit 34 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 This is what we are trying to do? http://www.reincarnation-automotive.com/Duraspark_distributor_recurve_instructions_page-2.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 plug both ports. give me new timing specs. do the tests i suggested. give me all that info and new timing specs. buy a vc31 vacuum can and install it when you get time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 plug both ports. give me new timing specs. do the tests i suggested. give me all that info and new timing specs. buy a vc31 vacuum can and install it when you get time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juit 34 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 If the plate was rotated should i also changed the springs? The heavy plate had the heavy spring, and the light a lightest spring Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juit 34 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 If the plate was rotated should i also changed the springs? The heavy plate had the heavy spring, and the light a lightest spring Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 i'm not sure what you are saying, just do exactly as i described. if you need new springs then we will deal with changing them at that point. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 i'm not sure what you are saying, just do exactly as i described. if you need new springs then we will deal with changing them at that point. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juit 34 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 I put the 15l on the little arm but the springs were put on the same position, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juit 34 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 I put the 15l on the little arm but the springs were put on the same position, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) good, thats exactly what you should have done. Edited October 25, 2014 by barnett468 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) good, thats exactly what you should have done. Edited October 25, 2014 by barnett468 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) This is what we are trying to do? http://www.reincarnation-automotive.com/Duraspark_distributor_recurve_instructions_page-2.html yes. adjust the spring tab inward on the heavy/loose spring after you install the points plate after the test where you use the lite spring only. if there is no adjustment left than you can file the hole slightly larger we need to find out why you have so little advance. running it with only 1 spring will help me determine that. nward. Edited October 25, 2014 by barnett468 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites