How do you stop the front from twisting?

[prayers1 153]

I've finally been driving the car and everytime I get on it the whole front left twist up pretty high. It's high enough that it blocks the road. Do I need to change the shocks or springs? Both are pretty old.

 

I shouldn't have that much torque, its a 289, 512 lift cam, 570 cfm Avenger, 4 spd top loader (wide ratio) and 3:50's in the rear.

After I reach 2000 the car really start to come alive.

 

This is how it sits today.

[Brian Conway 264]

Easiest first check would be... Take a shock tower bracket off and check the shock. Brian

[RPM 1,190]

Your front sits pretty high parked. I'd start by cutting half a coil till you don't have the space between the top of the tire, and the apex of the wheel opening. Shocks dampen the quick rise and fall of the springs. Yours may be worn out. If you think they need replaced or can't remember the last time you replaced them, or you haven't replaced them since you bought the car, I'd replace them. Shocks need replacing if they're leaking, or they keep bouncing.

Nice looking car btw.

 

Bob

[prayers1 153]

The shocks came with the car. IIRC, I think the PO was in the process of putting in a 390 and gave up, maybe he installed big block springs. I too think the front sits rather high.

 

What would be a good, fairly priced shock.

Could I just cut the coils off or should I replace. Replace with 620????

If I cut the coil a 1/2 at a time. what is that in inches?

 

Thank you all for your time and help!

[det0326 179]

The shocks came with the car. IIRC, I think the PO was in the process of putting in a 390 and gave up, maybe he installed big block springs. I too think the front sits rather high.

 

What would be a good, fairly priced shock.

Could I just cut the coils off or should I replace. Replace with 620????

If I cut the coil a 1/2 at a time. what is that in inches?

 

Thank you all for your time and help!

 

Don't know what to tell you about that except x2 on what Brian said.

The little 289's has more spunk than one may think. Owned a couple of them myself. Really like your car I am leaning toward that same color.

Nice.

[prayers1 153]

Thanks for the compliment!

[miketyler 15]

I agree, it almost has that "gasser" look. LOL

 

Did you have the front end apart? You might first check to be sure the springs are seated in the shock tower. If they are off and not centered in the insulator, that could give you some added lift that you seeing.

[Hoover 12]

Has your car been in a wreck? Check measurements side to side, fore and aft. Refer to a manual if need be, sounds as if it was tweaked in a fender bender. Go to an alignment shop to verify the frame is straight. Check your tires for abnormal tire wear.

 

A 40 year old car probably has had a few alignment issues. Verify.

[miketyler 15]

[det0326 179]

 

Now that would be a sweet ride. I'll bet it could lift the left front off the ground.

Edited October 27, 2013 by det0326

[prayers1 153]

Pretty Cool, I like it!

 

No, no wreck, just came back form the bodyshop all panels have been replaced.

 

When I push down on the front end it is rather stiff, such as the feeling from stiff springs. From what others sugested here, I tend to think it's the shocks, I would guess they are old and I have ignored that part of the project. I'll look for a decent pair of shocks.

 

Any suggestions?

[maxum96 32]

Now that would be a sweet ride. I'll bet it could lift the left front off the ground.

 

Not too high. It had wheelie bars,

 

 

 

For those of you that don't know, that's Ohio George Montgomery and the 1967 Malco Gasser Mustang. Check out his 1969 twin turbo Boss 429 powered Mustang. Both cars were works of art.

Edited October 27, 2013 by maxum96

[miketyler 15]

I would think shocks would lose their ability to lift (and dampen) over time and would discard that theory. You might still need shocks though LOL

[prayers1 153]

Thinking of ordering a pair of KYB 343146 - KYB GR-2/Excel-G Shocks.

What do you think?

 

Also If I take a 1/2 a coil off does anyone know how much in inches it will drop.

[sportsroof69 13]

Not too high. It had wheelie bars,

 

 

 

For those of you that don't know, that's Ohio George Montgomery and the 1967 Malco Gasser Mustang. Check out his 1969 twin turbo Boss 429 powered Mustang. Both cars were works of art.

 

Big tires and wheelie bars and for old women and little girls :wheelchair:

[clark1969 10]

Do you have the export brace and Monte Carlo bar? If not, you need them.

[Chris'69Mach 23]

The shocks came with the car. IIRC, I think the PO was in the process of putting in a 390 and gave up, maybe he installed big block springs. I too think the front sits rather high.

 

Thank you all for your time and help!

 

He said that he thinks the PO was in the process of putting in a 390. Sounds like the coil springs are too beefy for the 289.

[prayers1 153]

I do have the Monte Carlo Bar and the stock fire wall braces.

I noticed yesterday that when I get on it, besides the front twisting, the shaker scoop also lifts up about 3" from the the left and I have the heavy duty motor mounts.

 

Is it best to order new springs or cut the coil.

What would be a good spring rate?

[Brian Conway 264]

My 428 w/ram air doesn't torque 3" when I get on it. My point is it should not move that much. Are your motor mounts bolted securely ? Brian

Edited October 28, 2013 by Brian Conway

[prayers1 153]

How can this motor torque so much, thats one of the first things I thought of. Their fine.

[LoneWolf2U 136]

While they may look fine, it is moving way too much.

Open the hood, set the parking brake and let the clutch out and watch the engine. Does it rise? yes the center bolt has come loose from the rubber. The driver side mount needs to be replaced before you bend the shaker next time you really romp on it.

[prayers1 153]

Mach1Rider, nice to see ya around!

Are you talking about the center bolt on each side of the motor mounts?

[LoneWolf2U 136]

There is a center conecting bolt in the rubber mount. The rubber will look good from the sides but if it has seperated from the rubber it will allow the engine to lift.

 

Yea been out to the property for a few weeks getting pads cut in for the home site.

Will post up a few pic's of the new (temp) garage for the Mach1 later.

She has her own home for now, A 22' enclosed trailer.

And I said she would never be a trailer queen.....Lol

[prayers1 153]

Great, glad to hear things are coming along.

I'll be out for the next few days, my daughter has a State Volleyball Tournement.

I'll post what I fine when I get back.

[manley 13]

When I first got my car, I found the rubber on one motor mount had separated from the metal structure. I can't remember exactly how I discovered it, but it was not easily detectable at all.