Lemon Owner 11 Report post Posted June 4, 2012 (edited) Doing well, you're not mucking around with it! Edited June 4, 2012 by Lemon Owner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ash 145 Report post Posted June 4, 2012 Cheers guys! Don't think this is a factory method of fitment :huh: Got the rest of that section out. This will be the second tool I have found in this car. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Junior2561 10 Report post Posted June 4, 2012 So wait, it wasn't even welded down? Just glued? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ash 145 Report post Posted June 4, 2012 Nope, only thing holding it there was if you look about 4 inches back, there was a bead weld less then an inch long on both side. And that was it for the whole rail!! Here I am worrying about torque twisting and needing subframe connectors. I'm sure just building the thing properly would help a great deal too!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTG 10 Report post Posted June 4, 2012 It's a good thing you pulled the car apart and found that tool. It would have made a ton of noise rattling around in that frame rail! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ash 145 Report post Posted June 4, 2012 My hearing isn't very good and the car is quite loud but I'm sure it would rattle like hell. I probably, or someone else, may not have noticed before, but after it is back together and hopefully has a much quieter ride, it would have really sucked to be chasing that rattle. Who would look for something like that hidden inside the rail? Would be the last place to look! Here's something else, when the floor pan was cut out, a big grinder cut into the torque box and then left with the new pan welded over the top. I don't think this would benefit the cars strength at all either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lemon Owner 11 Report post Posted June 5, 2012 Looks like the only tool you didn't find is the one who put that floor in!!:001_tt2: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bear80 10 Report post Posted June 5, 2012 I am in shock about the amount of work needed doing to this car. Seems the PO didn't really care about it, which is such a shame. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ash 145 Report post Posted June 5, 2012 I'm feeling like a bit of a tool myself. I thought I had a better car then what it has turned out to be. The excitement, the build up, the overwhelming and over anticipation of the whole process has obviously got the better of me when I brought it. I'm still yet to get angry about any of it, which is quite odd for me. Must be growing up :001_huh: Anyway, I know I'll have a good thing in the end. I've also been working on cleaning up the outside of the A-pillar to see what I'm working with. I started sanding and the rust wasn't looking too deep. I was thinking I could clean it up and it should be ok. The top of it though it has had a dodgy patch put in and I'm thinking the cowl top has also been replaced. The bottom half of the cowl still looks like it has its original spot welds under the dash. The top just has the consistent weld here, weld there as well as some silastic. This patch at the at the top of the A-pillar looks crap and the rust under it has developed and is lifting at the edges. Something needs to be done with this. The bottom left corner of the plated area under the top hinge was lifting in the corner. I had seen that this is a problem area for rust so I gave it a tap and caught what fell out. Looks like there sure is rust under here so this is going to have to be removed and redone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bear80 10 Report post Posted June 5, 2012 chin up as It will all work out in the end mate. Cut and make patch panels out of one of the roofs of the cars your wrecking. Don't forget if you need a hand give me a yell. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ash 145 Report post Posted June 5, 2012 Cheers Bear, will do mate! I'll make up something to suit. Am off for a steel run on Friday, I placed a few orders today for aluminium, sign white sheeting and will also grab some RHS and sheet mild steel. Most of it is for an enclosed trailer I'm building, some for a job and some for this car. I want to start planning the subframe connectors. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike65 476 Report post Posted June 5, 2012 Ash, That area is rotted out on my 69 Coupe right below the upper door hinge bolt holes on the l/s which I have to fix. Mike. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ash 145 Report post Posted June 5, 2012 I had seen it to be a common spot, Mike. Do you have a plan of attack for yours? I was thinking I could remove the top layer and see what is underneath. If the next layer has to go, so be it. I know they don't do repo ones for 69/70's so what ever I do has to be made from scratch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Machattack 10 Report post Posted June 5, 2012 Some pretty dodgy workmanship being uncovered there Ash, did the PO do the "restoration"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ash 145 Report post Posted June 5, 2012 Yeah he did. I'm starting to get really worried about what I'm going to find under the paint. I can't see any major dents or anything like that when I look up under the quarters and etc, but I just don't know what may be there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Machattack 10 Report post Posted June 5, 2012 I guess you'll find out when you start stripping the paint, hopefully anything you do find is repairable. Amazing what some people will do for a quick buck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ash 145 Report post Posted June 5, 2012 It wasn't for a quick buck though, that's the frustrating part. Frustrating to understand why you would go to so much trouble for some things yet slack out on others. I have receipts for parts for this car dating back to 2000. Everything he said in that matter stands up, the story of the car and what he put on it. I just don't think he knew what he was doing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lemon Owner 11 Report post Posted June 6, 2012 I would start getting those floors back in before you start worrying about the rest of the car. If you start seeing how bad things really are you might just find something more interesting to do. Rome wasn't built in a day but if they new from the start how much work it was going to be they might just not have bothered. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ash 145 Report post Posted June 6, 2012 That is my goal, to get the floors done first. I had just started stripping back that side as it was too late to make noise with the grinder. I work from home, my neighbours aren't too close and they are elderly and quite deaf. But one noise complaint would cause me a lot of grief with council so I try to respect business hours as much as I can. Fortunately I'm not the only one in the neighbourhood who makes noise with power tools so it's nothing out of the norm to hear them. Just never at night. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Junior2561 10 Report post Posted June 6, 2012 I would start getting those floors back in before you start worrying about the rest of the car. If you start seeing how bad things really are you might just find something more interesting to do. Rome wasn't built in a day but if they new from the start how much work it was going to be they might just not have bothered. Ha - thats call denial! I think its part of our sickness.:whistling: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bear80 10 Report post Posted June 8, 2012 This is a pic of my tattoo i got today and since it was inspired by Ash's 66 and me joining this forum, I though I would post a pic Hope you don't mind Ash Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pakrat 1,043 Report post Posted June 8, 2012 :thumbup1: I like their tomoato/vegetable drinks, especially with some vodka or gin and a little wasabi! It's no Clamato mind you but it's alright. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRASTiK 22 Report post Posted June 8, 2012 :thumbup1: I like their tomoato/vegetable drinks, especially with some vodka or gin and a little wasabi! It's no Clamato mind you but it's alright. HA! Nice tatt, by the way! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ash 145 Report post Posted June 8, 2012 You're more game than I am, Bear. Glad my 66 inspired you that much. I think you're officially addicted to Mustangs now.:thumbup1: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bear80 10 Report post Posted June 8, 2012 Thanx, There will be more getting added to it in 2 weeks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites