jwscarab 20 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 Why dont many people put 460's in their 69's?? I assume shock tower removal (or at least mods) but why else??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crankywanker 10 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 my first thought would be weight. why put an engine in there so heavy when you could drop a lightweight 351 in there and put out just as much hp/tq Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckeyeDemon 211 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 weight perhaps a limitation on manifold choice for hood clearance? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ashleesmach1 28 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 weight is the concern Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jwscarab 20 Report post Posted May 1, 2011 ok, sounds like everybody agrees. So is the weight of a 460 quite a bit more than an FE?? I assume the 460 could put out killer hp (800) if you really wanted a fun car!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
72Pstroke 10 Report post Posted May 2, 2011 (edited) Joe, I have a 429 in my car with the original shock towers. The current engine is all cast iron, but I am collecting parts for a 521 or 545 with aluminum heads. I don't know what the weight difference is between an FE engine and the 385 series, but there is a lot more performance to be had out of the 385's. If you need headers or mount info, let me know. I have been through all this lately. Tim Edited May 2, 2011 by 72Pstroke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mustang-Boss-302 10 Report post Posted May 28, 2011 Had no problem dropping an early 460 Thunderbird in my 69, and cant think of 1 problem, had to grind a little off the exhaust manifolds to clear the shock towers, and make my crossmember work with the c6, shortened the prop with the c6 yoke, and used the auto rad for the cooler, the weight actualy made the car sit nice and low, but still went around corners like it was on rails, and it was faster than my mates 400 Formula Firebird, with no tricks or tunning parts. I must say, my 69 is a Boss 302, so has the stronger springs and a 3.91 traction lok rear, otherwise its a 69 like yours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mustang-Boss-302 10 Report post Posted May 28, 2011 Had no problem dropping an early 460 Thunderbird in my 69, and cant think of 1 problem, had to grind a little off the exhaust manifolds to clear the shock towers, and make my crossmember work with the c6, shortened the prop with the c6 yoke, and used the auto rad for the cooler, the weight actualy made the car sit nice and low, but still went around corners like it was on rails, and it was faster than my mates 400 Formula Firebird, with no tricks or tunning parts. I must say, my 69 is a Boss 302, so has the stronger springs and a 3.91 traction lok rear, otherwise its a 69 like yours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
70Mach03 12 Report post Posted May 29, 2011 I have a buddy who recently sold his 1970 F-code fastback which had a 460-4V swapped into some years back. It was a torque monster and a burnout machine. Check it out: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
70Mach03 12 Report post Posted May 29, 2011 I have a buddy who recently sold his 1970 F-code fastback which had a 460-4V swapped into some years back. It was a torque monster and a burnout machine. Check it out: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stangme428 33 Report post Posted May 30, 2011 I have a buddy who recently sold his 1970 F-code fastback which had a 460-4V swapped into some years back. It was a torque monster and a burnout machine. Check it out: wow... smoke em' if you got em':punk: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stangme428 33 Report post Posted May 30, 2011 I have a buddy who recently sold his 1970 F-code fastback which had a 460-4V swapped into some years back. It was a torque monster and a burnout machine. Check it out: wow... smoke em' if you got em':punk: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoover 12 Report post Posted May 30, 2011 Not just the weight per se, but the center of balance is shifted to the front end, leaving the rear end light and easy to south in a hurry. The control of the vehicle centers on just 2 wheels, leaving the rear end light in weight. I spent 20 years and aviation, and achieving the center of balance extremely important when a plane takes off and lands. The ideal proportion is 50/50, but if you can achieve 60/40 that is what most vehicles were with rear wheel drive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoover 12 Report post Posted May 30, 2011 Not just the weight per se, but the center of balance is shifted to the front end, leaving the rear end light and easy to south in a hurry. The control of the vehicle centers on just 2 wheels, leaving the rear end light in weight. I spent 20 years and aviation, and achieving the center of balance extremely important when a plane takes off and lands. The ideal proportion is 50/50, but if you can achieve 60/40 that is what most vehicles were with rear wheel drive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
70Mach03 12 Report post Posted May 30, 2011 Not just the weight per se, but the center of balance is shifted to the front end, leaving the rear end light and easy to south in a hurry. The control of the vehicle centers on just 2 wheels, leaving the rear end light in weight. I spent 20 years and aviation, and achieving the center of balance extremely important when a plane takes off and lands. The ideal proportion is 50/50, but if you can achieve 60/40 that is what most vehicles were with rear wheel drive. :thumbup1: Spent 35 years myself working with MAC and LEMAC on various military aircraft myself. 50/50 would give optima handing but even a Boss 302 won't do that in our platforms. A big block (390/428/429/460) is most definitely not the motor for a road course vehicle but years ago I was surprised that my 1970 428 SCJ with HD competition suspension actually handled better than my 1970 fastback with 302-2V and standard suspension. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
70Mach03 12 Report post Posted May 30, 2011 Not just the weight per se, but the center of balance is shifted to the front end, leaving the rear end light and easy to south in a hurry. The control of the vehicle centers on just 2 wheels, leaving the rear end light in weight. I spent 20 years and aviation, and achieving the center of balance extremely important when a plane takes off and lands. The ideal proportion is 50/50, but if you can achieve 60/40 that is what most vehicles were with rear wheel drive. :thumbup1: Spent 35 years myself working with MAC and LEMAC on various military aircraft myself. 50/50 would give optima handing but even a Boss 302 won't do that in our platforms. A big block (390/428/429/460) is most definitely not the motor for a road course vehicle but years ago I was surprised that my 1970 428 SCJ with HD competition suspension actually handled better than my 1970 fastback with 302-2V and standard suspension. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mustang-Boss-302 10 Report post Posted May 30, 2011 If you have got the right shocks and springs and hefty anti-roll bars, there is no problem making it go around corners, the torque out of these early 460's is awsome, the sound is also like no small block, and cruising at 80 through tunnels and under-pass's is music to the ears. Bliping the loud pedal at traffic lights and feeling the car twist, then dropping into drive and feel the traction-lok doing its job out back and leaving 2 great tracks of rubber...........man I loved it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mustang-Boss-302 10 Report post Posted May 30, 2011 If you have got the right shocks and springs and hefty anti-roll bars, there is no problem making it go around corners, the torque out of these early 460's is awsome, the sound is also like no small block, and cruising at 80 through tunnels and under-pass's is music to the ears. Bliping the loud pedal at traffic lights and feeling the car twist, then dropping into drive and feel the traction-lok doing its job out back and leaving 2 great tracks of rubber...........man I loved it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
red71stang 10 Report post Posted June 6, 2011 460 fits perfectly in mine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
red71stang 10 Report post Posted June 6, 2011 460 fits perfectly in mine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
red71stang 10 Report post Posted June 6, 2011 and the stance is spot on Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
red71stang 10 Report post Posted June 6, 2011 and the stance is spot on Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mustang-Boss-302 10 Report post Posted June 6, 2011 and the stance is spot on Mate, I love your car, Where in the UK are you, Have you ever looked in on the Classic Mustang UK forum? Chris. http://www.classic-mustang.co.uk/index.php Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mustang-Boss-302 10 Report post Posted June 6, 2011 and the stance is spot on Mate, I love your car, Where in the UK are you, Have you ever looked in on the Classic Mustang UK forum? Chris. http://www.classic-mustang.co.uk/index.php Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fvike 173 Report post Posted June 14, 2011 Plug changes! LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites