juit 34 Report post Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) Well i put the 58 jets and the carb is very responsive, burns tires at 3th gear im really digging it 1 thing i notice is the my vacum went up after taking the 64 jets Is this normal? Also the idle had to lower it up cause i went to 1000 rpms Havent hooked up the vac canister to the carb thats the only thing missing Edited November 21, 2014 by juit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted November 21, 2014 ok, good news, thats great. the jets actually have absolutely 0 to do with your idle or vacuum at idle . . something got bumped or maybe your metering block gasket is leaking or if you took the carb off it may have a base gasket leak . . i would find the problem . . this is not a good thing. . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted November 21, 2014 ok, good news, thats great. the jets actually have absolutely 0 to do with your idle or vacuum at idle . . something got bumped or maybe your metering block gasket is leaking or if you took the carb off it may have a base gasket leak . . i would find the problem . . this is not a good thing. . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juit 34 Report post Posted November 21, 2014 Ill change to new gaskets front section, so i add just 6 of vac advance? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juit 34 Report post Posted November 21, 2014 Ill change to new gaskets front section, so i add just 6 of vac advance? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted November 21, 2014 so i add just 6 of vac advance? yes because i had you nearly max your initial and centrifugal timing so you need very little from the vac can. hey, do i get some sort of endurance award like free cheesy poofs or a beautiful artisan crafted set of faux wood handled steak knives? . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted November 21, 2014 so i add just 6 of vac advance? yes because i had you nearly max your initial and centrifugal timing so you need very little from the vac can. hey, do i get some sort of endurance award like free cheesy poofs or a beautiful artisan crafted set of faux wood handled steak knives? . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juit 34 Report post Posted November 22, 2014 yes because i had you nearly max your initial and centrifugal timing so you need very little from the vac can. hey, do i get some sort of endurance award like free cheesy poofs or a beautiful artisan crafted set of faux wood handled steak knives? . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juit 34 Report post Posted November 22, 2014 yes because i had you nearly max your initial and centrifugal timing so you need very little from the vac can. hey, do i get some sort of endurance award like free cheesy poofs or a beautiful artisan crafted set of faux wood handled steak knives? . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted November 22, 2014 lol, ok, i'm afraid now...very afraid...please don't send batman over to do a show... perhaps just a short cell phone video of your car burning out? . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted November 22, 2014 lol, ok, i'm afraid now...very afraid...please don't send batman over to do a show... perhaps just a short cell phone video of your car burning out? . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) . hey, do i get some sort of endurance award like free cheesy poofs... . . . . . . . . . . . . Edited November 22, 2014 by barnett468 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) . hey, do i get some sort of endurance award like free cheesy poofs... . . . . . . . . . . . . Edited November 22, 2014 by barnett468 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) . ...or a beautiful artisan crafted set of faux wood handled steak knives? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Edited November 22, 2014 by barnett468 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) . ...or a beautiful artisan crafted set of faux wood handled steak knives? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Edited November 22, 2014 by barnett468 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted November 22, 2014 . Sorry...I forgot the complimentary paper doilies. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted November 22, 2014 . Sorry...I forgot the complimentary paper doilies. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juit 34 Report post Posted November 22, 2014 Hahahaha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juit 34 Report post Posted November 22, 2014 Hahahaha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted November 23, 2014 hey juit, what springs did you end up with and what was your timing curve with them. there is one lite ford spring and one heavy ford spring which is loose on one end. which of the ford springs did you replace? what is your final timing curve? . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted November 23, 2014 hey juit, what springs did you end up with and what was your timing curve with them. there is one lite ford spring and one heavy ford spring which is loose on one end. which of the ford springs did you replace? what is your final timing curve? . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juit 34 Report post Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) Mr gasket and heavy loose stock spring, i need to adjust the choke but its in the limit of adjustment, im thinking od drill a hole and do a force open choke plate adjustment screw , because in cold weather the choke plat is fully closed Also im having hot start problems with 12 initial timing or i can get it to idlefor a few seconds have you tried this plates? http://www.thompsonperformance.com/shop_products.html Edited November 24, 2014 by juit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted November 25, 2014 Mr gasket and heavy loose stock spring, i need to adjust the choke but its in the limit of adjustment, im thinking od drill a hole and do a force open choke plate adjustment screw , because in cold weather the choke plat is fully closed Also im having hot start problems with 12 initial timing or i can get it to idlefor a few seconds have you tried this plates? http://www.thompsonperformance.com/shop_products.html what was the final timing curve? it should not be hard to start with only 12 degrees so its the carb . . you did not have a problem starting with the other carb when hot . . set your gas level to just below the inspection holes when idling . . this should help . . if the carb is getting hot you may need a phenolic spacer. never saw them but those carbs have a flat spot because they are not jetted properly. . it's a marketing trick, lol. i bet your other carb did not do that. they may do something but they also obstruct the air flow in the carb which is not good. ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969_Mach1 333 Report post Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) You should read on how to adjust the choke and choke pull-off before trying a make shift fix for the choke. I don't think that plate from Thomas Performance is the answer to your flat spot. If there is a flat spot something is not tuned correctly. Your carb may just need a larger accelerator pump nozzle, or different accel pump cam, or both. Or the throttle plate position at idle is open too far. If the carb cannot be easily tuned to eliminate any flat spots, it's might be the wrong carb for the application. With all problems you have had with a lean running condition, if your car has a manual trans, a 600 CFM mechanical secondary (Double Pumper) might be a better carburetor choice. Is the motor hard to crank with 12 deg. initial timing? I know on my 351W, 11 deg. initial is about my max. When hot with 12 deg. initial timing the cranking is a little more difficult even with a Permanent Magnet Starter and good AGM battery, so I leave it at 10 deg. BTDC. Edited November 25, 2014 by 1969_Mach1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juit 34 Report post Posted December 15, 2014 Update cruise rpm went from 2200RPM @ 65 MPH to 1700 RPM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites