Jayru 17 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 I've been thinking a lot about what kind of racing i want to do with the Mustang. I've spent years on the 1/4 mile and want to get into some kind of road course racing this time around instead. Hemmings Muscle Machines had a great article about Trans Am racing of the 60's 70's a few issues back, and from the article i understand there are current "Vintage" Trans Am events taking place around the US. Top Gear had a great segment on British touring cup cars last night (the UK equivalent to Trans Am), and I'm hooked! I can't seem to find any good info on the net. It all keeps leading me to R/C Trans Am clubs/events. I understand it's limited to 305 cubes (i have a 302 so should be perfect). Not sure if my newer 5 speed disqualifies me though. I'd like to get some more info (class rules/schedule/etc.) Any info is much appreciated! Thanks! Jay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jayru 17 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 I've been thinking a lot about what kind of racing i want to do with the Mustang. I've spent years on the 1/4 mile and want to get into some kind of road course racing this time around instead. Hemmings Muscle Machines had a great article about Trans Am racing of the 60's 70's a few issues back, and from the article i understand there are current "Vintage" Trans Am events taking place around the US. Top Gear had a great segment on British touring cup cars last night (the UK equivalent to Trans Am), and I'm hooked! I can't seem to find any good info on the net. It all keeps leading me to R/C Trans Am clubs/events. I understand it's limited to 305 cubes (i have a 302 so should be perfect). Not sure if my newer 5 speed disqualifies me though. I'd like to get some more info (class rules/schedule/etc.) Any info is much appreciated! Thanks! Jay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jayru 17 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 I've been thinking a lot about what kind of racing i want to do with the Mustang. I've spent years on the 1/4 mile and want to get into some kind of road course racing this time around instead. Hemmings Muscle Machines had a great article about Trans Am racing of the 60's 70's a few issues back, and from the article i understand there are current "Vintage" Trans Am events taking place around the US. Top Gear had a great segment on British touring cup cars last night (the UK equivalent to Trans Am), and I'm hooked! I can't seem to find any good info on the net. It all keeps leading me to R/C Trans Am clubs/events. I understand it's limited to 305 cubes (i have a 302 so should be perfect). Not sure if my newer 5 speed disqualifies me though. I'd like to get some more info (class rules/schedule/etc.) Any info is much appreciated! Thanks! Jay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
69RavenConv 286 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 You might try posting this on the Classic Mustang mailing list. I know mailing lists are a little passe but this one is pretty active: http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/classic-mustangs There is at least one gentleman on the list, who posts regularly, who races a 67 Shelby in the vintage trans am series. I'm sure he knows more than anybody what's involved. This is his website http://shelbytransam.com/walt/ShelbyTA/index.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
69RavenConv 286 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 You might try posting this on the Classic Mustang mailing list. I know mailing lists are a little passe but this one is pretty active: http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/classic-mustangs There is at least one gentleman on the list, who posts regularly, who races a 67 Shelby in the vintage trans am series. I'm sure he knows more than anybody what's involved. This is his website http://shelbytransam.com/walt/ShelbyTA/index.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
69RavenConv 286 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 You might try posting this on the Classic Mustang mailing list. I know mailing lists are a little passe but this one is pretty active: http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/classic-mustangs There is at least one gentleman on the list, who posts regularly, who races a 67 Shelby in the vintage trans am series. I'm sure he knows more than anybody what's involved. This is his website http://shelbytransam.com/walt/ShelbyTA/index.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coz 108 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 I want to get into the auto cross scene but you need major mods to compete.... I'm working my way there but the costs are killer. However, if your car can do this it's worth it! There is a track out in VA close to WVA that races vintage cars - all types but the majority are old Porsches. There are a ton of rules. Pretty cool to watch.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coz 108 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 I want to get into the auto cross scene but you need major mods to compete.... I'm working my way there but the costs are killer. However, if your car can do this it's worth it! There is a track out in VA close to WVA that races vintage cars - all types but the majority are old Porsches. There are a ton of rules. Pretty cool to watch.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coz 108 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 I want to get into the auto cross scene but you need major mods to compete.... I'm working my way there but the costs are killer. However, if your car can do this it's worth it! There is a track out in VA close to WVA that races vintage cars - all types but the majority are old Porsches. There are a ton of rules. Pretty cool to watch.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxum96 32 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 WTF? His suspension is broken, not setup right, super soft, or he's showing off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxum96 32 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 WTF? His suspension is broken, not setup right, super soft, or he's showing off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxum96 32 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 WTF? His suspension is broken, not setup right, super soft, or he's showing off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxum96 32 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 Vintage racing is big bucks. Go to a vintage race some time and look at those cars. They're all high dollar cars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxum96 32 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 Vintage racing is big bucks. Go to a vintage race some time and look at those cars. They're all high dollar cars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxum96 32 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 Vintage racing is big bucks. Go to a vintage race some time and look at those cars. They're all high dollar cars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jayru 17 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 Really? That sucks if it's expensive. I was reading about cars in vintage Trans Am that had to be basically stock to even be ruled to compete. Maybe i misunderstood the article. Yea, i have little to no racing budget, so the only way i can compete is if the class is basically "stock" unmodified cars (save for safety equipment). Damn, that's a bummer. Does anyone know if a class like that exists? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jayru 17 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 Really? That sucks if it's expensive. I was reading about cars in vintage Trans Am that had to be basically stock to even be ruled to compete. Maybe i misunderstood the article. Yea, i have little to no racing budget, so the only way i can compete is if the class is basically "stock" unmodified cars (save for safety equipment). Damn, that's a bummer. Does anyone know if a class like that exists? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jayru 17 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 Really? That sucks if it's expensive. I was reading about cars in vintage Trans Am that had to be basically stock to even be ruled to compete. Maybe i misunderstood the article. Yea, i have little to no racing budget, so the only way i can compete is if the class is basically "stock" unmodified cars (save for safety equipment). Damn, that's a bummer. Does anyone know if a class like that exists? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jayru 17 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 I want to get into the auto cross scene but you need major mods to compete.... I'm working my way there but the costs are killer. However, if your car can do this it's worth it! There is a track out in VA close to WVA that races vintage cars - all types but the majority are old Porsches. There are a ton of rules. Pretty cool to watch.... Coz - What class/sanctioning body are you trying to compete in? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jayru 17 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 I want to get into the auto cross scene but you need major mods to compete.... I'm working my way there but the costs are killer. However, if your car can do this it's worth it! There is a track out in VA close to WVA that races vintage cars - all types but the majority are old Porsches. There are a ton of rules. Pretty cool to watch.... Coz - What class/sanctioning body are you trying to compete in? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jayru 17 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 I want to get into the auto cross scene but you need major mods to compete.... I'm working my way there but the costs are killer. However, if your car can do this it's worth it! There is a track out in VA close to WVA that races vintage cars - all types but the majority are old Porsches. There are a ton of rules. Pretty cool to watch.... Coz - What class/sanctioning body are you trying to compete in? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxum96 32 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 Really? That sucks if it's expensive. I was reading about cars in vintage Trans Am that had to be basically stock to even be ruled to compete. Maybe i misunderstood the article. You didn't misunderstand the article. It's just when they mean "stock", they are referring to the way the cars were back in the late 60's to early 70's. Even then those cars were heavily modified. About the only thing they didn't have were tube chassis. To build a car to go out and do vintage Trans Am racing you're probably looking at $50,000 plus to get started. And then you have to replace parts, tires, brakes, etc. Ever seen what a set of racing tires run? Not cheap. Here's J. Bittle's 1968 Trans Am race car. This one has real TA racing heritage. http://v8tvshow.com/content/view/81/95/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxum96 32 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 Really? That sucks if it's expensive. I was reading about cars in vintage Trans Am that had to be basically stock to even be ruled to compete. Maybe i misunderstood the article. You didn't misunderstand the article. It's just when they mean "stock", they are referring to the way the cars were back in the late 60's to early 70's. Even then those cars were heavily modified. About the only thing they didn't have were tube chassis. To build a car to go out and do vintage Trans Am racing you're probably looking at $50,000 plus to get started. And then you have to replace parts, tires, brakes, etc. Ever seen what a set of racing tires run? Not cheap. Here's J. Bittle's 1968 Trans Am race car. This one has real TA racing heritage. http://v8tvshow.com/content/view/81/95/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxum96 32 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 Really? That sucks if it's expensive. I was reading about cars in vintage Trans Am that had to be basically stock to even be ruled to compete. Maybe i misunderstood the article. You didn't misunderstand the article. It's just when they mean "stock", they are referring to the way the cars were back in the late 60's to early 70's. Even then those cars were heavily modified. About the only thing they didn't have were tube chassis. To build a car to go out and do vintage Trans Am racing you're probably looking at $50,000 plus to get started. And then you have to replace parts, tires, brakes, etc. Ever seen what a set of racing tires run? Not cheap. Here's J. Bittle's 1968 Trans Am race car. This one has real TA racing heritage. http://v8tvshow.com/content/view/81/95/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coz 108 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 There are many different "vintage" racing classes. Some are heavily modified but stock to what you had back in the day. For example you can beef up the 289 that was in the 67 coupe but you couldn't replace it with a cammer engine. Some vintage race clubs require that you be 100% stock - down to manifolds, carbs and wheel sizes.... The Porsche club races I've attend require the cars to be 100% like they were in the day. So the cost there is period correct / NOS parts. What I'm into is auto crossing which is basically build the best handling car you can and see if you can beat the other guy. There really aren't too many rules other than similar cars race similar cars.... Most of them cost in excess of 100K and run full frames, air ride or similar adjustable suspensions, big brakes, big engines, etc... Basically they are SEMA cars.... Maxum96 - that 69FB is the AirRide mule. It is some kinda beat on and it takes almost everything thrown at it. What is going on in the pic is he just came out of the turn and floored it. Between the HP and suspension - you get what you see. However, right after that picture the rear 4 link setup tore out from under the car because it was mounted with self tapping screws. Obviously, they now recommend welding it in. Jayru - I'd contact local Mustang clubs and see if they offer or know about vintage racing in the area. From what I understand - there are several active clubs in Cali... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites