Building 427w stroker, need help with some details

[THE EVIL TW1N 12]

Ok, the shortblock is already getting built by CHP.

 

Basically, the engine will be an TFS 205 11R head/C4 combo making ~525ish hp.

 

1. What headers would you guys recommend?

2. What fuel pump?

3. I'm guessing fuel line will be -8an (I haven't fully researched). Do they sell an aftermarket fuel sender that I can swap in?

 

I'm sure there are other questions that will come up. Thanks in advance.

Edited December 17, 2013 by THE EVIL TW1N

[1969vert 55]

What is your driving style?

[jmlay 80]

I would think -6 would be large enough for fuel line.:

 

http://www.gre6.com/ansize

 

You do not need to run head studs unless the short block was honed with studs & torque plates. You would need to talk to the builder to understand what was done during the build. If it was not honed with torque plates then I guess it does not matter if you use bolts or studs. The block should be honed with torque plates regardless if studs or bolts are being utilized.

[THE EVIL TW1N 12]

I would think -6 would be large enough for fuel line.:

 

http://www.gre6.com/ansize

 

You do not need to run head studs unless the short block was honed with studs & torque plates. You would need to talk to the builder to understand what was done during the build. If it was not honed with torque plates then I guess it does not matter if you use bolts or studs. The block should be honed with torque plates regardless if studs or bolts are being utilized.

 

I called CHP, yes they do run torque plates and recommend studs.

 

Also, combo has changed. I called AFR, couldn't get a hold of them. Was trying to confirm if the 205's come with solid roller valve train. Looking around on dealers websites, it looked like it did. That would explain the .700 lift. So I'm just gonna run the TFS 205 11R since I've always liked their heads (ran TW heads before on a SB, also on a BBF) and already come with the right hardware.

 

Edited my original post.

[BuckeyeDemon 211]

RobbMC has a fuel sender that has -8 feed and return.

[maxum96 32]

Yes, run -8 fuel lines. I run Accufab headers. I've been very happy with them. I had them coated at a local shop.

 

 

 

[jmlay 80]

Were bolts or studs used then it was honed, studs or bolts? If they used bolts when honing you should use bolts torqued to the same as they torqued.

 

 

I called CHP, yes they do run torque plates and recommend studs.

 

Also, combo has changed. I called AFR, couldn't get a hold of them. Was trying to confirm if the 205's come with solid roller valve train. Looking around on dealers websites, it looked like it did. That would explain the .700 lift. So I'm just gonna run the TFS 205 11R since I've always liked their heads (ran TW heads before on a SB, also on a BBF) and already come with the right hardware.

 

Edited my original post.

[THE EVIL TW1N 12]

Yes, run -8 fuel lines. I run Accufab headers. I've been very happy with them. I had them coated at a local shop.

 

 

 

 

Nice. What pulley system did you go with?

[sportsroof69 13]

I'd run -8 for sure, as your fuel line can never be too big. I installed a sump in my stock tank, so I could run a -8 out of it. Your fuel line is only as big as it's smallest point.

[maxum96 32]

Nice. What pulley system did you go with?

 

 

Thanks. They're March billet pulleys.

[THE EVIL TW1N 12]

RobbMC has a fuel sender that has -8 feed and return.

 

I couldn't find a username by that name. Any help contacting him?

[BuckeyeDemon 211]

I couldn't find a username by that name. Any help contacting him?

 

http://www.robbmcperformance.com/products.html

[THE EVIL TW1N 12]

http://www.robbmcperformance.com/products.html

 

Thanks, I just found them too. I'm a dummy lol

[THE EVIL TW1N 12]

Would the stock sending unit be tough to modify, or is it just worth it to just get the RobbMC sending unit? $206 shipped isn't too bad, just wondering. And I still haven't figured out the fuel pump I'm going to run, but I do want to stick with a mechanical one.

Edited December 22, 2013 by THE EVIL TW1N

[sportsroof69 13]

We tried to modify mine, and it's tough because it's basically lot metal. We didn't have much success.

[BuckeyeDemon 211]

possible option for a pump.

 

http://www.claysmithcams.com/small-block-ford-289-302-351-w/

[1969vert 55]

I used the stock sender as a return line back to the tank and sumped the tank in mine ...two holley blues for me..1/2 fuel line all the way...

[THE EVIL TW1N 12]

We tried to modify mine, and it's tough because it's basically lot metal. We didn't have much success.

 

Got it. What air cleaner set up are you running? and did you need motor mounts that lowered the engine to fit the Vic Jr intake?

 

Is Ron Morris (RMP) the only company that offers lowering motor mounts?

[THE EVIL TW1N 12]

I used the stock sender as a return line back to the tank and sumped the tank in mine ...two holley blues for me..1/2 fuel line all the way...

I don't feel like taking the tank out to sump it (laziness on my part). How important is it to run a return line?

[THE EVIL TW1N 12]

possible option for a pump.

 

http://www.claysmithcams.com/small-block-ford-289-302-351-w/

 

My brother ran a claysmiths fuel pump on his 533 BBF. He originally ran a return line but later removed it since he felt he didn't need it. He said a bunch of people over at fordmuscle forums said it isn't really necessary. I don't know much on fuel systems, so I'll probably be calling Holley regarding their 170gph HP fuel pump. Says you don't have to run a fuel pressure regulator (built in). Not even sure if its overkill for my set up tho.

[1969vert 55]

Running a return keeps regulator kreep down ..and only my nitous fuel side ....not only the motor..same motormounts here's..I have a 9 scoop only mine..so vj and spacers for me..

[sportsroof69 13]

Got it. What air cleaner set up are you running? and did you need motor mounts that lowered the engine to fit the Vic Jr intake?

 

Is Ron Morris (RMP) the only company that offers lowering motor mounts?

I don't run a return line. Mine is a deadhead into a magnafuel regulator block. One regulator goes to the carburetor, and one goes to the nitrous.

 

 

I got my air cleaner idea from Maxum96. It works great, but I don't drive it in the rain. I used stock motor mounts, and was bound a determined to use my stock hood and factory Mach 1 scoop.

 

Edited January 10, 2014 by sportsroof69

[THE EVIL TW1N 12]

Hey guys, thanks for the help so far. I've been putting in a ton of hours at work so I haven't had much time. Thanks for the suggestion on the fuel sender, got mine in from RobbMc.

 

 

Pretty cool piece. Still have a lot to order, let alone install. I did call Holley, they said it shouldn't be necessary to run a return line with my application.

[THE EVIL TW1N 12]

I don't run a return line. Mine is a deadhead into a magnafuel regulator block. One regulator goes to the carburetor, and one goes to the nitrous.

 

 

I got my air cleaner idea from Maxum96. It works great, but I don't drive it in the rain. I used stock motor mounts, and was bound a determined to use my stock hood and factory Mach 1 scoop.

 

What air cleaner did you run? I was planning on doing the same, the car is not going to be driven a whole lot outside of nice days. Especially not in the rain (not that it's going to be garaged, I just have a more comfortable daily driver for comfort).

Edited January 2, 2014 by THE EVIL TW1N

[sportsroof69 13]

Sounds like me. I drive mine pretty well every day that the weather is good.

 

 

It's this one.

 

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/edl-1235/overview/