Boss302 22 Report post Posted December 27, 2011 (edited) 1969 Grande "deluxe" the socket is there, so is the knob, What or where does it hook up to, i felt the back, but no wires, so its missing a wire..or something.. But what is the wire or something.. google isnt popping up with the best results.. And i dont want to fumble around back there and break something Does it need a power wire to a ignition source, like solenoid or accessories? but then what about grounding it. ill be basically using it for, radar detector...cell phone charger...stuff like that.. or should i buy a 12v power outlet and stick that somewhere...or will the stock factory lighter provide enuff... Edited December 27, 2011 by Boss302 ..added some more Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
69RavenConv 286 Report post Posted December 27, 2011 There should be a single wire with a right-angle connector that slides over the threaded post on the back. It's unswitched 12V thru a 15A fuse (I think it's 15A). Blue with red tracer maybe. 1 TimothyIsogy reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike65 475 Report post Posted December 27, 2011 There should be a single wire with a right-angle connector that slides over the threaded post on the back. It's unswitched 12V thru a 15A fuse (I think it's 15A). Blue with red tracer maybe. As Raven said there should be a single wire with a right angle connector that slips over the threaded post for the power, & a blade type connector to slip over the tab sticking off the back of the lighter assembley for the ground. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boss302 22 Report post Posted December 27, 2011 As Raven said there should be a single wire with a right angle connector that slips over the threaded post for the power, & a blade type connector to slip over the tab sticking off the back of the lighter assembley for the ground. to connect the power to it... those are by default in the accessory fuse? or a cigar lighter fuse...or is it on solenoid Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike65 475 Report post Posted December 27, 2011 According to the 69 Mustang owners manual fuse #-6 a 14 amp fuse powers the lighter, clock, trunk light, dome light, map light, courtesy lights, glove box light, & instrument panel lights. 1 TimothyIsogy reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boss302 22 Report post Posted December 27, 2011 According to the 69 Mustang owners manual fuse #-6 a 14 amp fusepowers the lighter, clock, trunk light, dome light, map light, courtesy lights, glove box light, & instrument panel lights. cool thanks...ordered the parts..just waiting now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boss302 22 Report post Posted December 28, 2011 I couldn't wait..went to autozone, bought a universal one,it didn't say ford on it, oh well.. Plugged it into the 14amp fuse....couldn't see a #6 spot...just all amp numbers, tried finding one that showed what and where the fuses are... Once I plugged it in,it worked...radar detector, phone charger,all worked... Then I tried the lighter itself...POP! Goes a fuse....maybe to much... So I switched the wire to where it says,"flashers" 20amp....and it worked. Plugged and tested it all...the lighter was done getting hot in 5 seconds I guess the oem lighter uses less amp then todays lighters. ..turned on the flashers..instead of blinking...they were solid....but when do I user flashers. So ill make it permanent tomorrow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boss302 22 Report post Posted December 29, 2011 Does anyone have a page that list the fuseboxes used on the 69's (grande if required) I tested the cigarette lighter,using the 20amp "flashers" spot, but im trying to attach a a RED wire to the TUBE fuses... Is there a special setup to solder on the red wire to something then snap in a piece to lock into the tube fuse, some how? thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
69RavenConv 286 Report post Posted December 29, 2011 I've tucked bare wire under fuses in my younger days but I don't recommend it. It would be better to find a wire fed by that fuse and splice into that. Just an FYI (or maybe TMI), the post on the left side of the fuse panel is wired directly to the 20A fuse (fuse #2). There is a part that Ford called a shunt that was installed when you ordered any options - map light, seat belt light, etc. It accepted a yellow 3-plug connector on a pigtail that fed the options. That would be the absolute best way to tap unswitched power as those obsolete parts are still available, and it's the way the factory did it. You don't really need the pigtail, you could attach directly to the shunt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boss302 22 Report post Posted December 29, 2011 I've tucked bare wire under fuses in my younger days but I don't recommend it. It would be better to find a wire fed by that fuse and splice into that. Just an FYI (or maybe TMI), the post on the left side of the fuse panel is wired directly to the 20A fuse (fuse #2). There is a part that Ford called a shunt that was installed when you ordered any options - map light, seat belt light, etc. It accepted a yellow 3-plug connector on a pigtail that fed the options. That would be the absolute best way to tap unswitched power as those obsolete parts are still available, and it's the way the factory did it. You don't really need the pigtail, you could attach directly to the shunt. when you say left side, is that as though the FuseBlock was upright? mines upside down, so that would be on the right... is that the post, thats for Accessory (optional) as shown in the picture? this is my FB, grabbed the image off the net.. i dont have the manual, so i dont know what fuse#2 is... but i found this image just now, i think its accurate.. im also adding a 15amp IN-LINE blade fuse, for the power of the cigar lighter...15amp is high enuff to use the cell phone charger,radar detector, i dont smoke, and dont let anyone smoke in my car, so i dont think there will be any real use for the actual cigar lighter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
69RavenConv 286 Report post Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) when you say left side, is that as though the FuseBlock was upright?mines upside down, so that would be on the right... is that the post, thats for Accessory (optional) as shown in the picture? this is my FB, grabbed the image off the net.. i dont have the manual, so i dont know what fuse#2 is... but i found this image just now, i think its accurate.. It's the one with your #1 arrow in the picture, #2 in the lower diagram - the diagonal slot in the plastic. It's a 20A accessory fuse that's deleted if you don't have any. The shunt accessory has the other clip for the fuse and a post for power take-off. Adding the shunt is probably more effort than just finding a wire and splicing into it but I was just throwing it out there. Edited December 29, 2011 by 69RavenConv Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boss302 22 Report post Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) well, that seems easier to tap into that wire, by any chance, do you know what the color would be? shunt is more of a hassle, but for now ill splice, then when i plan on getting my engine re-tuned,painted,shiny'd up, ill upgrade to the blade wire kit. i took a picture of mine.. the link:http://imageshack.us/f/402/sam0943n.jpg/ Edited December 29, 2011 by Boss302 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Larmincess 10 Report post Posted February 11, 2014 1969 Grande "deluxe" the socket is there, so is the knob, What or where does it hook up to, i felt the back, but no wires, so its missing a wire..or something.. But what is the wire or something.. google isnt popping up with the best results.. And i dont want to fumble around back there and break something Does it need a power wire to a ignition source, like solenoid or accessories? but then what about grounding it. ill be basically using it for, radar detector...cell phone charger...stuff like that.. or should i buy a 12v power outlet and stick that somewhere...or will the stock factory lighter provide enuff... You have this so i don't think you need to buy the 12v power outley, but if you buy one it can help you when you need immediate support. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlife 814 Report post Posted February 12, 2014 Wow. For 1969, the lead for the cigarette lighter (always blue/white trace) is tied into the courtesy lights (lower right tab). For 1970, it was the same. This is a 20 amp fuse. The lighter should not blow in that position. 1 TimothyIsogy reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites