garp90 10 Report post Posted June 11, 2011 I guess I'll do a little introduction. Hi, my name is Gary and I have recently acquired a 69 coupe. It has nothing for options. 200 six cylinder with a 3 speed. Like always I want more. My boss' brother in law has a late sixties cougar (he's not sure of the year) that has a built up 351 (cleveland or windsor, not sure of that either). But the body is in rough shape. If I can get it cheap enough, is this cougar worth getting so I can upgrade my mustang? What parts does a cougar have that I want/can put into my mustang? Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
garp90 10 Report post Posted June 11, 2011 I guess I'll do a little introduction. Hi, my name is Gary and I have recently acquired a 69 coupe. It has nothing for options. 200 six cylinder with a 3 speed. Like always I want more. My boss' brother in law has a late sixties cougar (he's not sure of the year) that has a built up 351 (cleveland or windsor, not sure of that either). But the body is in rough shape. If I can get it cheap enough, is this cougar worth getting so I can upgrade my mustang? What parts does a cougar have that I want/can put into my mustang? Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoneWolf2U 136 Report post Posted June 11, 2011 Depends on what parts you want? eng, trans, rearend, front suspension, brakes, steering are interchangable. Some parts are not, driveshaft, rear springs, interior parts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoneWolf2U 136 Report post Posted June 11, 2011 Depends on what parts you want? eng, trans, rearend, front suspension, brakes, steering are interchangable. Some parts are not, driveshaft, rear springs, interior parts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stangs-R-me 121 Report post Posted June 11, 2011 (edited) "IF" it is a '69 or '70, the whole interior (including the dash) can swap right in. A somewhat popular swap back in the day used to be putting an XR7 / Eliminator dash in a Mustang to get full instrumentation (Tach dash in Mustang looses Oil & Amp gauges). I've seen a few like this, but the flat Cougar dash pad just takes away the unique look of the double cockpit Mustang dash. Cougar dash pads were less prone to cracking though and may have been part of the reason people did the swap back then. "IF" it is a '67-68, nothing but front seats will simply "swap right in" as far as interior goes. Exterior wise: nothing but the cowl panel, side glass, and maybe a few other components will swap between '69-70 Mustangs & Cougars ... nothing at all if it is a '67-68. Mechanical wise: the whole drive train & suspension are interchangable if '69-70, (brakes too if '68-70) ... basically just engine & trans and differential if '67. Doug Edited June 11, 2011 by stangs-R-me added more info Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stangs-R-me 121 Report post Posted June 11, 2011 (edited) "IF" it is a '69 or '70, the whole interior (including the dash) can swap right in. A somewhat popular swap back in the day used to be putting an XR7 / Eliminator dash in a Mustang to get full instrumentation (Tach dash in Mustang looses Oil & Amp gauges). I've seen a few like this, but the flat Cougar dash pad just takes away the unique look of the double cockpit Mustang dash. Cougar dash pads were less prone to cracking though and may have been part of the reason people did the swap back then. "IF" it is a '67-68, nothing but front seats will simply "swap right in" as far as interior goes. Exterior wise: nothing but the cowl panel, side glass, and maybe a few other components will swap between '69-70 Mustangs & Cougars ... nothing at all if it is a '67-68. Mechanical wise: the whole drive train & suspension are interchangable if '69-70, (brakes too if '68-70) ... basically just engine & trans and differential if '67. Doug Edited June 11, 2011 by stangs-R-me added more info Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
garp90 10 Report post Posted June 11, 2011 I've been a BMW/VW guy (2002, 320i, gti, etc) for the past couple years but I couldn't help myself, I had to get a mustang lol. It's nice to have real car for a change. Anyways that pretty much answers my question, thank you. I think I'm gonna pursue this cougar. (pun kinda intended) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
garp90 10 Report post Posted June 11, 2011 I've been a BMW/VW guy (2002, 320i, gti, etc) for the past couple years but I couldn't help myself, I had to get a mustang lol. It's nice to have real car for a change. Anyways that pretty much answers my question, thank you. I think I'm gonna pursue this cougar. (pun kinda intended) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerC 136 Report post Posted June 11, 2011 My door glass, 9" rear, front spindles & brakes, old highback buckets and old center console are from a 70 XR7. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerC 136 Report post Posted June 11, 2011 My door glass, 9" rear, front spindles & brakes, old highback buckets and old center console are from a 70 XR7. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miketyler 15 Report post Posted June 12, 2011 Wow - I'd love to see the flat XR7 panel in a stang just to see what it looked like. Anyone got a pic of that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miketyler 15 Report post Posted June 12, 2011 Wow - I'd love to see the flat XR7 panel in a stang just to see what it looked like. Anyone got a pic of that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cornerstone 15 Report post Posted June 13, 2011 "IF" it is a '67-68, nothing but front seats will simply "swap right in" as far as interior goes. Mechanical wise: the whole drive train & suspension are interchangable if '69-70, (brakes too if '68-70) ... basically just engine & trans and differential if '67. Doug Wow Doug ! Sounds like you may be able to verify my situation. I bought a 68 cougar for the drivetrain only, a 302 with a toploader 4 speed. My my 69 fastback is a c4 automatic. So I'm guessing the z bar won't work and neither will the clutch pedal. What do ya think? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cornerstone 15 Report post Posted June 13, 2011 "IF" it is a '67-68, nothing but front seats will simply "swap right in" as far as interior goes. Mechanical wise: the whole drive train & suspension are interchangable if '69-70, (brakes too if '68-70) ... basically just engine & trans and differential if '67. Doug Wow Doug ! Sounds like you may be able to verify my situation. I bought a 68 cougar for the drivetrain only, a 302 with a toploader 4 speed. My my 69 fastback is a c4 automatic. So I'm guessing the z bar won't work and neither will the clutch pedal. What do ya think? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stangs-R-me 121 Report post Posted June 13, 2011 Wow Doug ! Sounds like you may be able to verify my situation. I bought a 68 cougar for the drivetrain only, a 302 with a toploader 4 speed. My my 69 fastback is a c4 automatic. So I'm guessing the z bar won't work and neither will the clutch pedal. What do ya think? According to my CJ Catalog, the Z-Bar & both mounts are the same, but the upper & lower rods are not. Clutch/brake pedal assemblies are also different. Doug Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stangs-R-me 121 Report post Posted June 13, 2011 Wow Doug ! Sounds like you may be able to verify my situation. I bought a 68 cougar for the drivetrain only, a 302 with a toploader 4 speed. My my 69 fastback is a c4 automatic. So I'm guessing the z bar won't work and neither will the clutch pedal. What do ya think? According to my CJ Catalog, the Z-Bar & both mounts are the same, but the upper & lower rods are not. Clutch/brake pedal assemblies are also different. Doug Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cornerstone 15 Report post Posted June 13, 2011 According to my CJ Catalog, the Z-Bar & both mounts are the same, but the upper & lower rods are not. Clutch/brake pedal assemblies are also different. Doug Hey, thanks for the info Doug! I had no idea their might be a problem with the linkage. Not to hijack..... but...with my mustang can I just buy the clutch pedal and mount it up to the existing hangar? I'm sure there are threads on this already... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cornerstone 15 Report post Posted June 13, 2011 According to my CJ Catalog, the Z-Bar & both mounts are the same, but the upper & lower rods are not. Clutch/brake pedal assemblies are also different. Doug Hey, thanks for the info Doug! I had no idea their might be a problem with the linkage. Not to hijack..... but...with my mustang can I just buy the clutch pedal and mount it up to the existing hangar? I'm sure there are threads on this already... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stangs-R-me 121 Report post Posted June 14, 2011 Yes, the support is the same with or without a clutch. However ... you do need the upper clutch pedal assist spring & bracket "IF" you are going to use a regular old school 3-finger type clutch. If you are going to up-grade to a Diaphram type (I.E. Centerforce), then you're good to go as the pedal assist spring is not needed or wanted with this type of clutch. Doug Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites