djs69stang 10 Report post Posted March 20, 2010 Well, knowing my luck, there would be many other things that would deter, distract, and otherwise slow down progress. Probably remove some items and see other things that need also to be replaced. I don't remember if Painless had instructions on their site (probably do) but I do know Mustang Monthly has good stuff complete with pics for novices. Thanks for the info. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djs69stang 10 Report post Posted March 20, 2010 Well, knowing my luck, there would be many other things that would deter, distract, and otherwise slow down progress. Probably remove some items and see other things that need also to be replaced. I don't remember if Painless had instructions on their site (probably do) but I do know Mustang Monthly has good stuff complete with pics for novices. Thanks for the info. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
louie69 10 Report post Posted March 20, 2010 (edited) You can get the instructions off the Painless site for sure. My biggest problem was the hookup for the alternator. Had to call them for help. Helpful tech guys!! Instructions have way better pictures than Mustang Monthly by far. You're only getting a snippet of the pictures from MM than the instructions have. As for doing in it pieces with the old & new - not going to happen because basically where you're pulling the old wires from is were the new wires go. The hardest part is the little rubber grommet that goes on the firewall. I'm ashamed to say how long it took me to get that one piece on. Can it be done it a long weekend with an experienced electrician - definitely. Took me a heck of a lot longer though. The wiring was the most rewarding job I've done to my '69 and I replaced the drum brakes on all 4 corners with disc brakes, booster & all new brake lines. Everything with no prior experience. Another thing that slowed me down was I had many wires for items that I did not have like dome light & radio. I just had to go buy the dome light & plan out the radio I wanted then. Still planning on the AC, trunk light, clock in the future!!! Have fun. Edited March 20, 2010 by louie69 Forgot some stuff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
louie69 10 Report post Posted March 20, 2010 (edited) You can get the instructions off the Painless site for sure. My biggest problem was the hookup for the alternator. Had to call them for help. Helpful tech guys!! Instructions have way better pictures than Mustang Monthly by far. You're only getting a snippet of the pictures from MM than the instructions have. As for doing in it pieces with the old & new - not going to happen because basically where you're pulling the old wires from is were the new wires go. The hardest part is the little rubber grommet that goes on the firewall. I'm ashamed to say how long it took me to get that one piece on. Can it be done it a long weekend with an experienced electrician - definitely. Took me a heck of a lot longer though. The wiring was the most rewarding job I've done to my '69 and I replaced the drum brakes on all 4 corners with disc brakes, booster & all new brake lines. Everything with no prior experience. Another thing that slowed me down was I had many wires for items that I did not have like dome light & radio. I just had to go buy the dome light & plan out the radio I wanted then. Still planning on the AC, trunk light, clock in the future!!! Have fun. Edited March 20, 2010 by louie69 Forgot some stuff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djs69stang 10 Report post Posted March 24, 2010 Aight, thanks for the info! I got to get the Painless by the end of the month if I want to get the $100 rebate. Now, how can I get this item and not let the wife know? Hmm . . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brianrupp78 10 Report post Posted March 24, 2010 HAha I thought i was going to have a problem getting it with my wife but suprisingly.... She said sure. I just explained that i needed it and would go without other parts for a while.... I was sure she wasnt going to let me get mine lol. Anyways im still in the process of getting mine installed. I got most of the engine bay stuff done. A couple things to remember when pulling out the old harness do not throw anything away. You will need to reuse you old connecters like your ignition swith headlight switch and so on. Another good idea is since your going to have your trim pieces out you might as well paint them all and get it looking good. after I finish my harness im also going to put in new carpet headliner dash pad and paint all my interior pieces..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coz 108 Report post Posted March 24, 2010 CJ Pony says it would take 24 man hours by pros. They have a "special" going on right now. They will supply and install the 14 fuse Painless kit for $2100. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djs69stang 10 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 Only problem is that I am in STL MO and they are in PA. My wife would let me, it is the only true hobby I actually splurge on, I will just have to make sure the new furniture isn't too far behind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxum96 32 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 How does the Painless harness deal with the hole in the firewall where the factory harness has the fusebox and engine harness plugs into the back of it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djs69stang 10 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 BRupp and Louie 69 - Give me an idea of what to take apart or out, and maybe a logical order. I may have some time this weekend to start the removal before the parts arrive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
louie69 10 Report post Posted March 28, 2010 I would remove the drivers seat and dash pad before starting the install. If I'm not mistaken I think the instructions ask you to remove the dash any way. I would remove the drivers side rear panel (you'll be fishing the rear wires past here), figure out a way to get the dome light wire to the dome light without removing the headliner (I used a wire hanger - worked great). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
louie69 10 Report post Posted March 28, 2010 Maxum96 - the painless harness has a metal plate that covers the majority of the hole. On top of the plate is a rubber grommet that the engine wires are feed through. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djs69stang 10 Report post Posted March 28, 2010 How about this item? http://www.keepitcleanwiring.com/catalog/details/FWALL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djs69stang 10 Report post Posted May 18, 2010 All done, went with the Painless and I really liked it. Pretty easy to install, ran into a few quirks and issues you might find with a 41 year old car. Biggest headaches came under the dash and knowing what to do at the coil with points. Definitely need a ballast resistor! I'd recommend using Painless as every wire is clearly marked and they give you plenty of hardware. If you use sequential tail lights you will need an extension from the plug to the circuit board. Other than that, they give you all that you may need. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRASTiK 22 Report post Posted May 18, 2010 (edited) I have a completely stripped car right now, meaning no interior, no fuel tank, no drivetrain. Would this be a good time to do the wiring or should some items be in place first? I guess what I am asking is: Using the painless kit and the instructions alone, would it be feasible to determine where the wires should be routed without having any components in the car? I have the harness that came with the car, but it was already removed and put in a box prior to my purchase, so I'm not sure how much of a "guide" it will be. It looks rather "aged" too so I'm not looking to use it. Edited May 18, 2010 by DRASTiK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fordrevhead 29 Report post Posted May 19, 2010 Drastic, I would paint it all first but yes now's the time to wire. Main harness at least... I wouldnt route and latch down everything say forward of the firewall until then drivetrain is in, etc but under the dash, through the firewall and back to the trunk for sure while everything is out... oh and dont forget the dome light wiring before the headliner! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fordrevhead 29 Report post Posted May 19, 2010 $2100~ special! Holy crap... I should get into that business! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRASTiK 22 Report post Posted May 20, 2010 Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brianrupp78 10 Report post Posted May 21, 2010 I did mine without any interior in it. It will help you rout it all then just connect everything as you put it in. No big deal... The painless kit is good, you shouldnt have any issues either way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
