70 Mach1, will a 460 fit?

[dans70mach1 11]

Hello everyone, I wanted to introduce myself and find a place to gather information in helping build my 70 mach1. It has no motor right now, but was either going to go back to a Cleveland 2bbl, 4bbl or a 460. My concern was if the 460 would fit between the shock towers with out moddifying them. Looks as though hooker is the only ones making headers for a 460 for 71-73 years also. Does anyone know if they will fit the 70? I know that the headers for 302's and 351's all list for 65-73 so I am not 100% sure if the engine room is the same as the 71-73. Thanks in advance for the help.

 

Dan

[dans70mach1 11]

Hello everyone, I wanted to introduce myself and find a place to gather information in helping build my 70 mach1. It has no motor right now, but was either going to go back to a Cleveland 2bbl, 4bbl or a 460. My concern was if the 460 would fit between the shock towers with out moddifying them. Looks as though hooker is the only ones making headers for a 460 for 71-73 years also. Does anyone know if they will fit the 70? I know that the headers for 302's and 351's all list for 65-73 so I am not 100% sure if the engine room is the same as the 71-73. Thanks in advance for the help.

 

Dan

[dchandler60 10]

Welcome Dan, I have a 69 and can tell you from my experience that on the 351C hooker headers hang down REAL low. So low I changed them out with FPA headers http://www.fordpowertrain.com. There not cheap but are excellent fit and the service is great also. I do see they list a shorty for the 460 but do not know about in a mustang, but if you give them a call they could tell you what u need. Some other folks more experienced will chime in on the 460 fitment. Good Luck

[dchandler60 10]

Welcome Dan, I have a 69 and can tell you from my experience that on the 351C hooker headers hang down REAL low. So low I changed them out with FPA headers http://www.fordpowertrain.com. There not cheap but are excellent fit and the service is great also. I do see they list a shorty for the 460 but do not know about in a mustang, but if you give them a call they could tell you what u need. Some other folks more experienced will chime in on the 460 fitment. Good Luck

[dans70mach1 11]

thanks, I never thought about shorty headers. my plans are if i do go BB to use a fairly mild cam and a dual plane intake for a nice sleeper.

[dans70mach1 11]

thanks, I never thought about shorty headers. my plans are if i do go BB to use a fairly mild cam and a dual plane intake for a nice sleeper.

[dans70mach1 11]

Talked to Stan ( I think ) over at fordpowertrain.com, Great guy and very helpful.

[dans70mach1 11]

Talked to Stan ( I think ) over at fordpowertrain.com, Great guy and very helpful.

[red71stang 10]

I've got a 460 in my 70 fastback. fits between the standard towers but will never be able to change the spark plugs unless the engine is raised:asshole:

[red71stang 10]

I've got a 460 in my 70 fastback. fits between the standard towers but will never be able to change the spark plugs unless the engine is raised:asshole:

[Grabber70Mach 107]

Welcome, you might want to check out a company called Sanderson. They might have some shorty headers for the app you are looking for. Post some pics of your project when you get the chance.

[Grabber70Mach 107]

Welcome, you might want to check out a company called Sanderson. They might have some shorty headers for the app you are looking for. Post some pics of your project when you get the chance.

[dans70mach1 11]

red71stang,

 

when you put the 460 in, what headers did you use and mounts as well. I see that paddock sells motor mounts for about 30 each.

 

Also when you did your 460, what was it before hand? how does it drive compared to a cleveland (power wise)

[dans70mach1 11]

red71stang,

 

when you put the 460 in, what headers did you use and mounts as well. I see that paddock sells motor mounts for about 30 each.

 

Also when you did your 460, what was it before hand? how does it drive compared to a cleveland (power wise)

[dans70mach1 11]

here is a few pics of what its like now. i just got it home less than a week ago. getting ready to stat on the floor pans, then rear quarters, then engine and transmission. Its a project but my wife is excited

[dans70mach1 11]

here is a few pics of what its like now. i just got it home less than a week ago. getting ready to stat on the floor pans, then rear quarters, then engine and transmission. Its a project but my wife is excited

[coz 108]

Here's a pic of a 70 with a Ford Racing 460. He had the shock towers notched for fit and access to 2/3, 5/6 plugs.

 

http://www.1969stang.com/gallery/COZ-69Mach1/111_1158?full=1

 

You can always stroke that Cleveland and make hugh power. And to top it off you are about 10 miles from one of the best Cleveland builders in the country. Mark McKeown built mine. www.mmeracing.com

 

Also highly recommend FPA headers. One of my best purchases....

[coz 108]

Here's a pic of a 70 with a Ford Racing 460. He had the shock towers notched for fit and access to 2/3, 5/6 plugs.

 

http://www.1969stang.com/gallery/COZ-69Mach1/111_1158?full=1

 

You can always stroke that Cleveland and make hugh power. And to top it off you are about 10 miles from one of the best Cleveland builders in the country. Mark McKeown built mine. www.mmeracing.com

 

Also highly recommend FPA headers. One of my best purchases....

[dans70mach1 11]

I have talked to Mark at MIR before. Not looking to make crazy power, but something fun for the street. I was thtinking a 460 because with a few simple things like a cam intake and a good carb it would be fairly fast. Im not totally against to a cleveland.

[dans70mach1 11]

I have talked to Mark at MIR before. Not looking to make crazy power, but something fun for the street. I was thtinking a 460 because with a few simple things like a cam intake and a good carb it would be fairly fast. Im not totally against to a cleveland.

[S code 69 13]

A stock 460 is a gutless wonder, unless you're planing a performance build you might as well keep your small block.

 

Something to consider if you want a big block would be to put an FE in it, it be an easier swap since that was the big block from 67-70 so parts are not a real problem and higher performance engines are not hard to find. something to think about anyway.

[S code 69 13]

A stock 460 is a gutless wonder, unless you're planing a performance build you might as well keep your small block.

 

Something to consider if you want a big block would be to put an FE in it, it be an easier swap since that was the big block from 67-70 so parts are not a real problem and higher performance engines are not hard to find. something to think about anyway.

[R4K 10]

I just want it on the record that I am not the first one to suggest he put an FE in there.

 

I will, however, be the first to second that suggestion. =)

[R4K 10]

I just want it on the record that I am not the first one to suggest he put an FE in there.

 

I will, however, be the first to second that suggestion. =)

[Pakrat 1,043]

Its a project but my wife is excited

 

Well you've already overcome the biggest obstacle most of us face so the rest should be easy. And if she's the cheerleader in your avatar then I am sure you are pretty excited too. My humble opinion, big blocks are over rated these days unless you are building a real bruiser that mostly goes straight or you just like to brag. They aren't real practical when it comes to being able to work on them or just for cruising and the power that can be made these days from the smaller blocks is just amazing especially pound for pound.