1970 M Code non Mach 1 Shaker car

[FrozenMonkey 12]

Great lookin car. Hope she gets plenty of exercise!

[Zipppo 11]

I drive the car sparingly and keep it clean and garaged but when I take it out yes I drive it hard and have a blast with it. Thanks all for the nice compliments, much appreciated!

[Zipppo 11]

Question. I have located a 1969 Mustang Tach dash set up standard interior ( black camera case housing. If I swap the gauges over to my 70 housing are they the same? I know the housings are but the gauges are they identical between 69 and 70? I will need to get the tach harness. I also will do the Shelby console gauge swap so I have the requisite correct set in the dash.

Thanks!

[stangs-R-me 121]

The Woodgrain dash gauges have the blue-ish tinting and the standard gauges are all black so you will have a mis-match with your Clock (if your car has the optional for '70 clock).

 

I'm 99% sure the 69-70 gauges are interchangeable between clusters.

 

I think the standard interior Tach Cluster is more RARE than the deluxe, so you might be able to find someone interested in a trade so you have the correct deluxe gauges for your 70 Mach 1.

 

Doug

[miketyler 15]

They should interchange with no problem. While I like the deluxe interiors its cool to see a straight and intact standard interior complete down to the steering wheel and upholstery.

[Zipppo 11]

Ok I have sourced the tach dash. Next is I have heard that to adapt the wiring for the tach can be done without having to swap the harness out. Has anyone here done this and what are the steps in doing so.

Also what changes need to be made for the oil pressure and amp gauges? I have a pod and two gauges that will go in the forward area of the console that I got from Tony Branda to complete the conversion.

Any photos and step by step how to's would be greatly appreciated.

[miketyler 15]

Heres a pretty good how-to on re-pinning the standard plug for tach dash. Also, you can add resistance wire (or a resistor) to retain the ALT light function. Midlife did my conversion but I had to go in and replace the resistance wire with a 1/2watt resistor for 3G alternator. Works great.

 

http://1970mgr.org/_AddTachCluster.htm

[Zipppo 11]

Thank you much appreciated. I think I will be able to do this. I will send my newly acquired cluster out to the Tachman to have it restored and then install.

 

On a side note what are the wheel and tired specs on your 70 Mustang they look nice! I would like to get the same setup for my car.

[miketyler 15]

The rears are 315-35/17 and the fronts are 245-40/17. I believe the rear wheel width is 11" and the front is 8.5"

[Zipppo 11]

What is the offset on them and is there a mini tub or all stock besides being lowered? I want to make sure I get it right the first time.

Thank you.

[miketyler 15]

No mini tub, all stock besides some light malletizing in the lower forward corner of the wheel well. I would have to dig up my paperwork but I believe the rears were 6.75" offset (custom) and the fronts were an off-the-shelf offset for American Racing.

[Zipppo 11]

When you happen to have a chance to do so that would be great. Front and rear with offsets and tire brand and sizes.

Thank you very much. They look amazing!

[70fastbak 16]

Hey zippo,

 

My wheels are not the same as mtylers but he was one of the guys on here that kinda persuaded me (just by looking at is car and how it sat) to go with 315's on my car also.

Im running 2004 deep dish mach 1 rims on mine and I also did not mini tub just a little modifying of the forward edge of the inner wheelwheels was all it took.

The specs on my rears are 10.5" rim, 6.9 backspacing with 27mm offset, running a 1" spacer.

[70fastbak 16]

Heresacoupleofo show you how it sits in the wheelwell.

I do have my lips rolled also.

 

 

[miketyler 15]

I found the invoice from 2011 and it looks like they were 17x11 Torque Thurs II's with 6.75" BS on the rears. No spacers needed. Am running the SSBC rear disk kit that didn't affect trac width.

 

On a side note...I remember now ordering them and when I received them the vendor had got the BS backwards. I should have taken pics....those were some DEEP dish wheels with only 4.25" BS. There were promptly exchanged

 

I think there are several threads on here including mine discussing the observations I made during the fitment process. Buenig and a few others have done this as well but and I think were using modern wheel fitment. Most of us went wit the Sumitomo HTRZ summer performance tire.

 

I ordered my rears custom but the fronts were a stock size 17x8 width and were 4.75BS. My fronts are 245-45/17. Adult driven, no rubbing and no spacers.

 

Hope this helps

[miketyler 15]

Found the pic of the botched wheel set. Check out this for a deep dish look...

[Zipppo 11]

I found the invoice from 2011 and it looks like they were 17x11 Torque Thurs II's with 6.75" BS on the rears. No spacers needed. Am running the SSBC rear disk kit that didn't affect trac width.

 

On a side note...I remember now ordering them and when I received them the vendor had got the BS backwards. I should have taken pics....those were some DEEP dish wheels with only 4.25" BS. There were promptly exchanged

 

I think there are several threads on here including mine discussing the observations I made during the fitment process. Buenig and a few others have done this as well but and I think were using modern wheel fitment. Most of us went wit the Sumitomo HTRZ summer performance tire.

 

I ordered my rears custom but the fronts were a stock size 17x8 width and were 4.75BS. My fronts are 245-45/17. Adult driven, no rubbing and no spacers.

 

Hope this helps

 

Very helpful. I will order up a set on Monday these are going to be perfect. I really appreciate it. Have you any pictures of your car from different angles showing off the wheel and tires fitment.?

Thank you for your help.

[miketyler 15]

I would advise you to measure yours before ordering. Chances are that 6.75" will work for you but you should get a square and straight edge to be sure. I do run pretty close clearance on the springs; maybe 1/4 or 5/16" and I did roll my rear fender lips.

 

This isn't a problem for street cruising but if you like taking corners fast this could present issues. For me, I like the look. I have a purple 72 Cuda with the same fat look. In fact, I am running 275's on the front of it. Will try to get some more pics of the Mach 1.

 

 

[Zipppo 11]

Will do measure a whole bunch of times and order once and get it right.

Thanks

[miketyler 15]

Heres a few more pics of the car after I finished it

[Zipppo 11]

Beautiful. Very nice stance and the wheels and tires really fit nicely. I love the garage space you have looks like a 4 car detached and two in the house.

Thanks for sharing. Any interior shots of this fine car?

[miketyler 15]

Thanks, yes we bought the house as a foreclosure and the 4 car detached was the decision maker for us. I found that the space fills up quickly. Here are a few pics of the interior.

[Zipppo 11]

Nice score on the house. The Mustang is beautiful very nice looking car inside and out. The sport deck seat really make these cars stand out as well.

[miketyler 15]

Yes, I added that and was surprised at how many pieces I had to track down to do the conversion...pricey parts as well. The chrome kit is well worth the money I think.

[Zipppo 11]

Question folks?

Does anyone know how many standard interior tach dash Mustangs were built in 1970?

Thanks in advance