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Posts posted by Alan_Mac
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Thanks for the info . If you were to put a different cam in it like the first one I posted or a similar one, I would keep the carb you have and try it first to see if you like the way it runs as this might save you some money . If you want the best throttle response you can get with a bigger cam I would consider a quick fuel mechanical secondary annular booster 850 carb with the optional slow secondary linkage rod, unfortunately that carb is not cheap.
The first cam I posted is a popular one for 410 and 418 ford strokers etc so it is nothing unusual and would be considered about in the middle for a performance street cam , some people that want much more of a street strip car and fairly nasty/rough idle would use a bigger one.
I would also try your engine with a 1" spacer if you have hood clearance . I think you will find that you will gain some power but you my need a drop down air cleaner for clearance which would put the lid very close to the top of the choke housing which will cost some hp which is one reason why you should not run a choke.
Barnett; I agree with you suggestion, keep the carb change the cam. Someone with a similar small 950 carb said his wet flowed at ~830 C. My carb venturi are 1 3/8 dia. and its size is slightly smaller than an 850 venturi. I am not sure if the P to V clearance will be enough for the voodoo cam intake 231 lift @ .050. See the attachment here. http://s124.photobucket.com/user/Alan_MacDougall/media/side%20marker%20dimensions/Picture%20099_zpsrwpfaqzb.jpg.html
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i'm curious to know which 950 you have. I know there are true 950 cfm carbs and the 950 hp's that are much smaller. I have the 950hp which has the smaller venturi on mine and it wet flowed 830 cfm (memory) from Pro-Systems.
Good to know what it wet flowed, I believe my Bigs 950 stage 5 has the smaller venturi, Both primary and secondary venturi measure 1 3/8 diameter. They are smaller than an 850 which are both 1 9/16. So now the carb doesn't seem overly big.
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Thanks for the cam recommendations, The first cam seems like a better choice.
The Jay Allen cam was designed for street use, idle ~800 RPM automatic trans with 2300 stall converter, 6500 red line, 350 gears, the engine was in the process of being built but generally the specs were as above except 408W and smaller headers, and a stock RPM intake. The cam is decent for the street, idles great 850-900 but I expect leaves some power on the table. The car with the FMX and the 780 VS had an awesome kick in the pants response. When I changed from the FMX to the TKO I also changed to a 950 MS and mostly lost the kick in the pants response. Here is some feedback from carb manufacturers;
Holley / QuickFuel; Recommended a 1) Street-Q Carburetor 750cfm MS or VS 2) SS-Series Carburetor 780cfm VS
Holley CFM calculator: (6400 RPM 830 CFM) (6300 RPM 750 CFM) no choke, MS
ProSystems: PRO SERIES XC series HP double pumper. Although the specs will vary a little when I am flowing it for the application, your supplied tech sheet follows the carb around the shop during the build. We'll size it for the exact cfm range when it is on the wet flow bench to match your programs needs. But it'll probably end up being in the 830-840 REAL cfm range.
I am going to measure my 950 venturi and throttle plate opening for comparison. As i remember they are smaller than the 850.
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Barnett, I appreciate you taking the time to respond. The cam was designed by Jay Allen long ago when my car had a FMX. Although I am a mechanical engineer and very mechanical, I do not know much about picking a cam. Link for cam specs here http://s124.photobucket.com/user/Alan_MacDougall/media/side%20marker%20dimensions/1970%20Mach1%20Strip%20and%20Letter%20Dimensions/cam_zps5vreqlsh.jpg.html .. Exhaust system is 2.5" magnaflow true X. FPA full length headers 1 3/4. I found Pro systems makes a 780 without the choke.
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So what cam do you recommend?
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what is your exhaust?
who told you to use a 950?
who made that cam?
throw that girly cam in the trash and get a mans cam
780 with NO CHOKE
set your timing CURVE for optimal perf.
You obviously don't like my car, 950 mistake, I had a 780 before. The cam is from long ago with an FMX. FPA 1.75 headers magnaflow exhaust. Who makes a 780 w/o a choke?
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I have Bigs (4150) 950 Stage 5 carb and think it is too big. No bog or anything just not as responsive as it should be. It has been tuned with an innovate. I am thinking either a Quick Fuel 750 with MS or a 780 with VS. I also want a choke. Here is my application.
Street warrior
1970 Mustang Mach1 (likely around 3500 lbs with a full tank and me in it)
6200 RPM Max
418W
AFR 205's
10.5:1 compression
Lightweight forged rotating assembly
Custom roller cam split duration @0,50, intake 219 exhaust 239
Mildly ported and flow balanced performer RPM intake
TKO 5 speed 3.27:1 first gear
3:50 rear
Recommendations from carb experts requested!
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My opinion.... A very complete nicely optioned coupe. So its not a fastback, but it is a grande. It's worth restoring, do not part it out.
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As midlife said, the two wires pass through current for the ignition system. Use a voltmeter to check continuity through the tach.
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Tachman restores original Tachs. I had Redline replace mine with modern (VDO) internals.
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Mine bolted right up, no problems. Assuming you have the parts assembled correctly, could the wrong parts be in your kit? I would contact TCP their engineers can sort this out. Alan
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I have a Retrosound Model Two. To align the radio screen parallel to the 69 / 70 radio bezel I had to trim the InfiniMount brackets many times. I bet I took in in and our 30+ times.
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I believe the FMX were also used on big block applications before the C6 replaced it.
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What does the underside look like? torque box's, cowl, floors, trunk floor, quarter panels, wheel wells? What options are on the marti? How much do you want for it? Where are you located? Alan
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I have Hooker Super Comps 6114 on my car. I installed the engine with headers and tranny attached. Took about 2 hours with 3 people, but we got it in. I can explain how we did it if you like. I used Remflex gaskets to minimize the chance of header gasket leaks. As other have said, the top front bolts touch the shock towers. If you get a chance to buy or look at a copy of Jay Brown's book titled, "The Great FE Intake Comparo," he also shows dyno test results with different manifolds and headers. It is an excellent book for any FE wrench turner.
The Hooker Super Comp 6114 have outstanding torque which is great for a street car, but other headers had better HP at higher RPMs, so a drag car would like those better. http://www.jegs.com/i/Hooker/520/6114/10002/-1?gclid=CPfi_Ny159ACFYKHfgodrSMPbw
The FPA headers that others mention have good ground clearance, and are a Tri-Y design. Stan is the FPA owner, and his shop is close to me. I've seen his operation, and he has an excellent product. A friend has some of his headers on his 1958 428 powered Ranchero and loves them. http://www.fordpowertrain.com/390428triy.htm
Sandersons makes shorty headers, but I have no experience with them https://www.sandersonheaders.com/sanderson-ff393-header-set-fits-ford-fe-engines-in-mustang.html?category_id=76
Hope this helps.
I love my 351W FPA headers, ground clearance is really great and quality is awesome. I would give Stan a call about fitment and installation procedure.
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Awesome work and beautiful paint color. Maybe too good to race? It would prefer to base clear coat the inside of the rear quarters and trunk area. I can't wait to see the finish product.
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Previously with my old SSBC brakes, I didn't like EBC green and changed to red. Much better stopping performance.
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I have the TCP coilover conversion on my 70. It made a world of difference. As I remember someone at the 69/60 mustang supersite has used both, as I remember they said the bilstein shocks are far superior to the varishock. Maybe do a search on that site to find the thread.
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I have a TCP manual rack. Excellent quality, good turning radius, I love it.
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Carb Suggestions
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Probe SRS, -22cc,
Grand touring, maybe I take it to the drag strip on occasion.
Now that I have a manual trans, I am not worried about the idle. 900 RPM is fine, Lumpy, semi nasty
Red line 6200 +
Grand touring would lean towards a smooth power curve with allot of area under the curve.
No power brakes.
Alan