Mach1 Driver 560 Report post Posted November 11, 2020 Are you one of those people that has an inherent distrust of on-line calculators? I’m never quite sure if I have the correct information, in the way they want it, or what the calculator is doing, so I decided to make one myself. The formulas and bulk of definitions are from rbracing-rsr.com. Once you understand what is in the formulas, it’s easy to see that the results are accurate. I started this because I wanted to know which pistons and heads to get for my 1969 351W. The calculations are simple math, although there is a fair amount of them, so like any good engineer I turned to Excel. I laid the formulas out so it is easy to see what is happening. Basically it calculates the volumes of several different “math cylinders” within an engine cylinder. You also need to know the cylinder head volume and piston head volume for any reliefs or what not. There are a total of 10 different things to enter. Piston and head manufacturers usually provide the answers on their websites, and if they don’t, you probably don’t want to use their stuff anyway. Ixnay on Ebay. Initially I was confused about deck height because of what is shown in the formulas. Here I refer to the engine’s deck height as “deck height 1”, and “deck height 2” is from a calculation and provides the distance from the top (flat part) of the piston to the top of the deck. Also, until I saw the formulas I didn’t understand why an area cut out of the top of the piston should be expressed as a positive number, while a projection from the top of the piston should be a negative number. The way the formulas are written, you are adding or subtracting these volumes from the totals. The spreadsheet has two sheets, the first of which is definitions. You need to be certain of these so you feed the correct numbers into the calculator on the second sheet. Fill in the green cells to get the answer in the blue cell. It allows you to pick and choose which heads, pistons, head gaskets, rod lengths, and stroke to use for a desired compression ratio. Go to my Google Drive where I have shared several documents you may find interesting, see "Compression formulas3.xlsx": https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/10FqYlsGT1XXr8B5TCF9WAASkU4vdPtuJ?usp=sharing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RPM 1,190 Report post Posted November 11, 2020 Dang Terry, you get bored? Thank God for engineers. Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mach1 Driver 560 Report post Posted November 11, 2020 16 hours ago, RPM said: Dang Terry, you get bored? Thank God for engineers. Thanks. You are welcome. Yeah that's literally what happened, so I decided to do something that I find interesting and that I will eventually need. Using this spreadsheet I have preliminarily selected AFR 185cc heads with 58cc combustion chambers, and Icon 1C9925-03 forged pistons that have +11cc top volume. Its a little higher compression than I was shooting for at 10.39:1, but so far its the only combination of parts that comes close- I was shooting for something a little lower around 10:1. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kjanak@att.net 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2023 can you resend/ repost you calculator. The link no longer works Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kjanak@att.net 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2023 can you resend/ repost you calculator. The link no longer works Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vicfreg 772 Report post Posted December 4, 2023 The one from Summit Racing works pretty well. Link below: https://www.summitracing.com/popup/calcsandtools/compression-calculator Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mach1 Driver 560 Report post Posted December 5, 2023 On 11/24/2023 at 4:20 PM, kjanak@att.net said: can you resend/ repost you calculator. The link no longer works 16 hours ago, Vicfreg said: The one from Summit Racing works pretty well. Link below: https://www.summitracing.com/popup/calcsandtools/compression-calculator I added the calculator to my Google Drive folder, go up to post #1 to get the link. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites