alex 18 Report post Posted April 24, 2019 Does anyone have experience with the Hedman Elite mid-length 88658 headers? How is the fit? https://www.summitracing.com/parts/hed-88658 The application is a 1969 Fastback with a 351W. Future plans are a more modern five speed transmission. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969_Mach1 333 Report post Posted April 24, 2019 I installed JBA short headers on my 69 Mach1 with a 351W. Fit is good with no issues. On those Hedman headers, the only thing I see is that tube for number 7 cylinder going up might be an issue with spark plug wires. And put more heat in the area next to the valve cover and master cylinder. I don't know why Hedman did that. The JBA header tubes are routed differently. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alex 18 Report post Posted April 25, 2019 The number 7 pipe routing is a good point. Does anyone have some experience with how close that pipe gets to the master cylinder? I will look at the JBA headers as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RPM 1,190 Report post Posted April 25, 2019 My Hedman's are long tube, but have the same #7 tube issue, so I moved it. Mine was way too close to the brake booster and line for my liking, so I moved it. I have an auto trans so I wasn't concerned about Z bar access. If I were you, I'd buy a different header. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alex 18 Report post Posted April 25, 2019 That looks like a lot of work that you did for the driver's side header. Comparing the two pictures it looks like you moved each tube with six and seven seeing the most change. Five and eight were also moved as well. Correct? Not having had header work done previously, how much did the changes cost? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RPM 1,190 Report post Posted April 25, 2019 It cost me many hours of cutting, sanding and fitting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavboy78 28 Report post Posted April 25, 2019 I will have to chime in for the FPA longtubes. Expensive, but you get what you pay for. Fits my 70 with a 351w, cable clutch, and borgeson steering box. Never thought i'd get longtubes to fit in that space, but they dropped in perfectly. fit and finish is top notch and still look great 10 years later. 1 RPM reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J's69Mach1 17 Report post Posted April 25, 2019 Cavboy78 , can u post pics of your fpa headers and their clearance on borgeson steering box. If not to much trouble. Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavboy78 28 Report post Posted April 26, 2019 excuse the engine mess as I'm in the middle of a rewiring project... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J's69Mach1 17 Report post Posted April 26, 2019 Nice , as soon as I save money , FPA are on my to get list . ThankYou Cavboy78 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavboy78 28 Report post Posted April 26, 2019 No problem. Good luck with the build! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigDuke6 17 Report post Posted April 28, 2019 I have a pair of FPAs and despite being JetHot coated, they started to rust after 6 years. Stan should be using stainless steel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maleah 17 Report post Posted April 30, 2019 Installed a pair of Patriot ceramic long tubs on my 69 convertible, 351w, 4 speed, power steering. Had to use a 302 zbar. Easy install. Plugs are easy to get to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites