My new 1970 M-Code Mach 1 Project

[Rich Ackermann 174]

On another topic. I have installed my Global West front suspension, CPP Granada front spindles disc brakes, power steering box, and stock linkage with Granada outer tie-rod ends. Also the rear is in with a Yukon center case, and Eaton TrueTrac with 3.70 gears in the stock nine inch with stock 28 spline axles. Also partially installed the CPP rear disc brake conversion kit.

Borrowed a set of 18 inch US Mag wheels with tires from a friend to check clearances before I buy my wheel and tires. I think they look great on my car. I might just have to keep them...Lol!

 

 

[69Stanger408 82]

Much better on the black out rear panel!

 

[Tnstratofam 2]

You're doing great work. She is turning out really nice. I like the rear panel better blacked out too.

[copb8 97]

Definitely  better. I like it.

[Vicfreg 771]

Nice wheels.   Noticed the spacer plate on the steering box, is that box from a Granada also?

I blasted and powder coated my tail light housings, so they are all black. But the Orange is kinda cool.....

 

 

[Rich Ackermann 174]

3 hours ago, Vicfreg said:

Nice wheels.   Noticed the spacer plate on the steering box, is that box from a Granada also?

I blasted and powder coated my tail light housings, so they are all black. But the Orange is kinda cool.....

 

 

Hi Vicfreg,

My car originally had manual steering. The GM Style steering box, Custom Pitman Arm, Rag Joint are from CCP.  The "spacer" is actually the mounting plate that adapts the GM box to the original Ford mounting holes. There is a counterpart mounting plate on the other side of the frame. It will be paired eventually with a GM Style Saginaw Pump. The setup is similar to what Ford used on the 71-73 Mustangs with power steering. I never like the 69-70 hydraulic P/S setup Ford used. I looked at a Borgeson conversion kit as well, but decided to go with CPP. 

I only needed to use Granada outer tie rod ends with the Granada front spindles/brakes. The rest of the linkage is the original Ford Manual linkage.

I like the orange accent around the taillights. Kinda gives it a modern look. Some folks don't care for it and I understand that.

BTW: the wheels are borrowed from a friend of mine's Mustang. They are US Mags Bandit U109s in 8 x 18 and 9 x 18. I am using them to test fitment. I like them too and have decided to get the same ones for my build.

[Vicfreg 771]

Got it, sounds like a good setup.  I used a CVF serpentine pulley system, they provided the GM pump.  Came out good.  Check them out.

 

[Grabber70Mach 107]

16 hours ago, Vicfreg said:

Got it, sounds like a good setup.  I used a CVF serpentine pulley system, they provided the GM pump.  Came out good.  Check them out.

 

@Vicfreg any particular reason you chose that setup over the Wraptor setup?

[Rich Ackermann 174]

16 hours ago, Vicfreg said:

Got it, sounds like a good setup.  I used a CVF serpentine pulley system, they provided the GM pump.  Came out good.  Check them out.

 

That looks fantastic! You have the aftermarket (Sanden?) A/C compressor and the Saginaw P/S pump mounted on a Windsor block. I have had no luck finding a similar pulley setup for Sanden A/C and Saginaw P/S on a Cleveland block. 

[Grabber70Mach 107]

2 hours ago, Rich Ackermann said:

That looks fantastic! You have the aftermarket (Sanden?) A/C compressor and the Saginaw P/S pump mounted on a Windsor block. I have had no luck finding a similar pulley setup for Sanden A/C and Saginaw P/S on a Cleveland block. 

@Rich Ackermann

https://www.cvfracing.com/black-ford-351c-serpentine-system-ac-power-steering-alternator/

Or

https://www.cvfracing.com/black-serpentine-system-for-351c-351m-400-ac-power-steering-alternator-all-inclusive/

[Rich Ackermann 174]

1 hour ago, Grabber70Mach said:

@Rich Ackermann

https://www.cvfracing.com/black-ford-351c-serpentine-system-ac-power-steering-alternator/

Or

https://www.cvfracing.com/black-serpentine-system-for-351c-351m-400-ac-power-steering-alternator-all-inclusive/

Thanks. They look nice, albeit somewhat pricey. May be the best, if not the only way to go.

[Grabber70Mach 107]

Pretty sure it's the way I'm leaning, March performance is the only other ones I know of and they seem to be even pricier.  Wonder if they'd give a better price if we bought two at the same time.

[Vicfreg 771]

CVF had the best price by far when I looked.  Really high quality hardware, made in Minnesota.  

[RPM 1,190]

I fully agree with Vicfreg's opinion on CVF.

[RogerC 136]

I've been looking at CVF for a while for my 351C, been on my ebay watch list for a year or so.

[Grabber70Mach 107]

3 hours ago, RogerC said:

I've been looking at CVF for a while for my 351C, been on my ebay watch list for a year or so.

So if we call direct and order three kits wonder if we could get a better price.

[smh00n 87]

13 hours ago, Grabber70Mach said:

So if we call direct and order three kits wonder if we could get a better price.

I'd try it. Most resellers would possibly only order 1 or 2 kits to get wholesale pricing so 3 kits is not a bad sale for them. I used to get at least 20% off RRP when I ran my shop.

[69Stanger408 82]

Fyi on CVF, I bought and installed a CVF front runner for mock up. A year later, still in the build process I decided to add AC as it's now or never. I contacted CVF about adding the compressor  and bracket that matched what I had, and eventually decided to swap out the installed, mocked up system for the top of the line Wrapter. CVF credited my system for the upgrade and took it back, verified it was as I described and shipped me the new one. Don't know of any company that would do that,take back an installed product and give full credit for it,  they are awesome to work with.

[Rich Ackermann 174]

1 hour ago, 69Stanger408 said:

Fyi on CVF, I bought and installed a CVF front runner for mock up. A year later, still in the build process I decided to add AC as it's now or never. I contacted CVF about adding the compressor  and bracket that matched what I had, and eventually decided to swap out the installed, mocked up system for the top of the line Wrapter. CVF credited my system for the upgrade and took it back, verified it was as I described and shipped me the new one. Don't know of any company that would do that,take back an installed product and give full credit for it,  they are awesome to work with.

I never heard of nor personally had a company backup their products that way. Most give you 60 to 90 days at most to return uninstalled stuff. I bought a set of del-a-lum shackles from global west in late November. Discovered they would not fit my Eaton stock leaf  springs. I never installed them. They still refused to take them back since it was over 90 days. So now I am selling them on ebay and Craig's list, facebook marketplace. Any takers?

[Grabber70Mach 107]

@Rich Ackermann@RogerC

I serious about seeing if they will give us a discount if we buy three setups at once.  Let me know if your in.  I'll call and talk with them to see what they would do, just need the specifics of what setup your looking at.

[Rich Ackermann 174]

5 hours ago, Grabber70Mach said:

@Rich Ackermann@RogerC

I serious about seeing if they will give us a discount if we buy three setups at once.  Let me know if your in.  I'll call and talk with them to see what they would do, just need the specifics of what setup your looking at.

Ok I am in if the discount is good. I might be able to get a buddy of mine who has a 71 mach 351C with aftermarket a/c and p/s to go for one too. So that may make it four.

[RogerC 136]

This is the one I'm looking at.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Ford-351C-Serpentine-Pulley-Conversion-Kit-Alternator-Only-Cleveland-Kit/122465366680?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

Just got a raise and a bonus so I got the money.

[Mike65 475]

Roger, that is a nice looking setup. I am also only running an alternator on my 5.0 & to make the manual steering easier I installed a roller idler arm from Opentracker racing.  Even with the weight of the drivetrain in the car & the car not moving I can turn the steering wheel with one hand. Here is a link to the idler arm I have which fits 67-70. https://opentrackerracing.com/product/roller-idler-arm-manual-steer-1967-1970/

Here is a pic of the setup on my 1987 5.0 in my 69 Coupe.

 

[RogerC 136]

I'm not sure the CVF setup will work with my 3G alt as is, could take some modification. We should probably take this off Rich's Build thread.

[Grabber70Mach 107]

@Rich Ackermannsounds good, check with him and see.

@RogerCI can inquire when I talk to them.