coil spring saddle comparison

[alex 18]

Is the difference between the following two coil spring saddles enough to justify the price difference?

https://www.cjponyparts.com/scott-drake-coil-spring-saddle-high-performance-1965-1973/p/CSS4/

https://www.cjponyparts.com/scott-drake-coil-spring-saddle-1965-1973/p/C4DZ3388RI/

 

[Mike65 475]

Alex, what year is your Mustang?. When I rebuilt the front suspension on my 69 Coupe I installed the roller spring perch from Opentracker Racing Products.

http://opentrackerracing.com/product/roller-spring-perches/

[alex 18]

1969.  I guess that would be helpful.

I would consider the roller perches but wanted to first explore the difference between the two I mentioned originally.

[MN69Grande 203]

2 hours ago, alex said:

Is the difference between the following two coil spring saddles enough to justify the price difference?

https://www.cjponyparts.com/scott-drake-coil-spring-saddle-high-performance-1965-1973/p/CSS4/

https://www.cjponyparts.com/scott-drake-coil-spring-saddle-1965-1973/p/C4DZ3388RI/

 

The cheaper one has stockish replacement rubber bushings, while the more expensive ones have 'synthetic elastomer bushings'  , has grease fittings, and  also from the photo it looks like the more expensive one has nicer hardware.  I would assume the upgraded bushing would give better range of motion.  This is a step toward Rollerized perches which I agree with Mike65 is the way to go, but the more expensive ones here should be an improvement over stock.

[alex 18]

Those differences do look like a good improvement.  Any first-hand experience with the performance version?

 

[Brian Conway 264]

Alex I've run both versions.  Not on the 69 but on my 65 GT.  I prefer the stock version because they delivered; firmer, better handling, more responsive steering.  I ran the HD version for about 2000 miles and the usually rock solid steering characteristic's were denigrated to a ' wobbley ' and loose front end subject to wandering.   Pulled them out replaced with the ' cheaper ' set  and the predictable handling traits have returned.  Now that is my experience and opinion.  Street driving, not on a race car or running a modified suspension.  Just a plain old Mustang.  Brian

[alex 18]

Thanks for the information Brian.  Not the feedback I was expecting.  From the description of the performance version, it seems to be part of the way to the roller version with the ability to rotate further on the shaft.  Any idea what could result in less definite tracking with the performance version?

I have already done the arning drop, adjustable strut rods and put in drop springs.  The typical low budget changes.  

[barnett468 418]

what is your goal?

[barnett468 418]

2 minutes ago, alex said:

Thanks for the information Brian.  Not the feedback I was expecting.  From the description of the performance version, it seems to be part of the way to the roller version with the ability to rotate further on the shaft.  Any idea what could result in less definite tracking with the performance version?

I have already done the arning drop, adjustable strut rods and put in drop springs.  The typical low budget changes.  

I nor anyone else I know ever had any of the probs brian is stating and it is nearly impossible for a spring perch to cause those probs and the performance drake ones are the same type many mfgs like ford and gm etc use on some of their vehicles.

 

 

[alex 18]

My immediate goal is to replace a worn out spring perch.  The long term goal is to improve the handling with no intention to race the car nor spend thousands of dollars on the suspension.  Perhaps not a very helpful description of goals.

Btw, I have also converted my car to manual steering.

[barnett468 418]

if you are on a budget, I suggest you just get the standard drake spring perches. you will not really notice a difference between the two.

[alex 18]

I am not on a budget at all but do want to make sure that the changes I make are useful.  I think with the input from this thread I have the information I need.  Thanks for the quick replies.  Keep the conversation going though if there is more information.

[barnett468 418]

slightly bigger front sway bar with urethane bushings

lower the upper control arm 1"

lower the car from stock height

obviously wider and lower profile tires than stock.

stiffer than stock front coil springs