jgkurz 52 Report post Posted January 18, 2017 Hi Folks, I finally have my transmission and wanted to share some info about my unique project. I have a stout stroker FE built for my 69 Q Code and needed a transmission. I debated going Tremec TKO600 but for a few reasons decided an automatic was best. I have a fun stick car already plus I like to drag race so an auto made sense. A 5spd can certainly drag race but it's harder on the car and much more difficult to be consistent. My car will be used for both street and strip duty so a tough situation. A great street transmission doesn't make a great drag race trans and vice versa. I looked into many options including AOD, AODE, C6 with GV, adapter plate, but settled on an offering by Broader Performance in Texas. They were very experienced with modern Ford transmissions and were FE fans which was a bonus. They were able to machine an old FE Cruise-O-matic bell housing onto the 4R70W. This allowed me to use my FE starter with no weird adapter plate. It's really an impressive engineer feat I think. I will be able to use my original speedo cable and shifter so it will all look stock and sleeperish. If you don't know about the 4R70W it is quite a cool transmission. They hold up to a ton of power from the factory and have 4 gears with a lockup converter. I paid to have my internals beefed up plus I have a heavier duty lockup to handle the torque. I am going to use a Baumann Quick 4 controller that can have multiple profiles to adjust shift characteristics and shift points with a turn of a dial. The stall is 3000RPM so hopefully a good balance between street and strip functionality. The rear trans mount and shift rod was made by a gentleman named Joe Persad from another forum. The only major things left are the trans cooler and the driveline. I hope to have it in the car in the spring or summer at the latest. I can't wait! -John 4 jgkurz, Selmadox, ncdruroSor and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Machspeed 219 Report post Posted January 18, 2017 Good for you, John! Look forward to your thoughts on this setup. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bryonbush 85 Report post Posted January 18, 2017 i was just thinking about this the other day on how/if it would be possible to put my 4R in with an FE. just curious, how much are you into the trans rebuild w/ the custom housing? When you get to it, when you program the controller, for cruising around keep the shift speeds a little lower that you would might want. i didnt want it to go into 4th till about 65mph but with that setting, when it did shift into 4th it'd rock the car pretty good with a hard shift. brought it down to 55 and much better. i then added an OD off switch which is a great option to have too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeStang 247 Report post Posted January 18, 2017 I need to add an on off switch for my OD also LOL... Lost a race cuz car shifted to OD because I forgot to turn the speed way up before we took off LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgkurz 52 Report post Posted January 19, 2017 I will have an OD on/off switch and a rotary switch to select between four different calibration tables. I know I want a street table and a drag racing table. I'm not sure I'd need the two extra tables. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LiLMike 42 Report post Posted January 19, 2017 I used a universal fluid cooler from Summit Racing. It is a finned cylinder cse and I ran the tranny liness through the radiator first and then the return through the cooler and back to the tranny. I needed a shorter drive shaft with my 4R and had an aluminum one made. That was only about $180. Turned out really well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LindenBruce 27 Report post Posted January 19, 2017 Yes, my research shows only Bendtsen's is making the adapter to fit the AOD and it's variants to the FE. I went with their adapter. The car is not running yet but the transmission fits just fine. HOWEVER, the two top belhousing bolt mounting tabs had to be spot faced down about .250" inch to give the bolt heads extra clearance for the firewall. Because of the thickness of the adapter. Also, my FPA headers also hit the adapter and I had to remove a wee-bit of material from the adapter at those points. B. http://www.transmissionadapters.com/ford_fe.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sixt9stang 36 Report post Posted January 19, 2017 Great info in here. I really want to put the 4r70w behind the 302 in my car. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeStang 247 Report post Posted January 19, 2017 Lil Mike where did you get an Aluminum Drive shaft made for 180.00 The shops in Houston I found said if I supplied a factory Alum Driveshaft it would be almost $250.00 to shorten and rebalance it. They wanted like $500 to build me a new one to my specified length....Damn driveshafts are getting expensive Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LiLMike 42 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 Lil Mike where did you get an Aluminum Drive shaft made for 180.00 The shops in Houston I found said if I supplied a factory Alum Driveshaft it would be almost $250.00 to shorten and rebalance it. They wanted like $500 to build me a new one to my specified length....Damn driveshafts are getting expensive It was a local guy my mechanic knows in Greenfield, Indiana. I can get his number if you like? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
panteramatt 1 Report post Posted February 14, 2017 Very cool setup. On another note I have a full 4r70w swap for sale if you know of anyone who needs one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgkurz 52 Report post Posted February 14, 2017 Very cool setup. On another note I have a full 4r70w swap for sale if you know of anyone who needs one. Thanks. What bellhousing does your 4R70W have? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeStang 247 Report post Posted February 14, 2017 Sent ya a PM Lil Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites