ashleesmach1 28 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 I am looking to install a more modern starter on my car. I want to replace the heavy original unit for a lighter one. The one off a 93 Mustang Cobra would fit the bill. However, I'm not sure how to connect the wires with the solenoid on the fender. I really don't want to loose the solenoid. Can I bypass the lighter starters solenoid and connect the power wire directly to the starter ? Thanks! 1 WilliamFug reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
machm1970 180 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 It's an easy swap, I did it on mine a few years ago. The article linked below gives pretty good instructions. http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2001/08/ministarter/index2.php Matt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeStang 247 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 Yep its pretty simple process. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeStang 247 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 1. Move the big red wire on the solenoid that goes to the starter over to the other side of the Solenoid which is "The battery Side".... Your basically just putting Straight power to the New Starter all the time, but it wont engage till you do step #2. 2. Route a new wire to the starter signal post from the location you removed the big starter wire off of and your good to go 1 Mike65 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeStang 247 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 Pic above is what it should look like when your done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ashleesmach1 28 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 ok Cool Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ashleesmach1 28 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 It's an easy swap, I did it on mine a few years ago. The article linked below gives pretty good instructions. http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2001/08/ministarter/index2.php Matt What starter did you use? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeStang 247 Report post Posted October 12, 2016 I used a starter from a 1995 Mustang with 5.0, they are all pretty much the same Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ashleesmach1 28 Report post Posted October 13, 2016 Yes I know. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike65 475 Report post Posted October 13, 2016 In the above diagram what gauge wire should be used for the orange wire from the fender solenoid to the solenoid on the starter?. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeStang 247 Report post Posted October 13, 2016 I think I used some 10g. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike65 475 Report post Posted October 14, 2016 Thanks Mike. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ashleesmach1 28 Report post Posted October 15, 2016 Are PGMR starters easy to rebuild? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GypsyR 32 Report post Posted October 18, 2016 I've been using PMGR starters from the salvage yard for years and have yet to have the starter itself give a problem. It's always the attached solenoid. I've replaced a BUNCH of those. I've had one apart though. There's a small planetary gearset in one end but otherwise they're pretty much like any other starter rebuildable wise. Since you can buy a new off Ebay so cheaply rebuilding one hardly makes sense. I find it very annoying that you can buy a complete cheap off-brand PMGR with solenoid off Ebay cheaper than you can buy just the cheap off-brand solenoid at the local parts store. I wouldn't look down on one of those cheap Ebay type starters, lots of folks have been well pleased by how well they work and last. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ashleesmach1 28 Report post Posted October 18, 2016 Are PGMR starters easy to rebuild? I found a vid on U tube that shows a step by step way to rebuild the PMGR starter. Here is the link: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ashleesmach1 28 Report post Posted October 18, 2016 Apparently there is a automatic type starter and a manual type starter. They have different offsets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeStang 247 Report post Posted October 18, 2016 And the really sad part is the pick and pull wants damn near as much as a rebuilt unit from the parts store...When did Pick and pulls start getting as much for parts as the parts houses Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GypsyR 32 Report post Posted October 20, 2016 My local "Pull-A-part" sells starters for $19.95 plus a $7 core charge. The cheapest PMGR 1995 Mustang starter at my local O'reillys is $79 plus a $10 core. Depends on where you shop. I don't have a problem with either price. I do have a problem with O'Reillys (and all the rest) selling just the PMGR solenoid by itself for $50. I mean more than half the price of a complete starter WITH a solenoid on it. That's just wrong. About double what it should be priced at. Not that anybody is asking me... Local salvage yards are asking @$25 for a used one. I've noted over the years that parts prices can vary drastically depending on what part of the country you are in. Pretty cheap around here I guess. 1 RPM reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites