Modern Starter

[ashleesmach1 28]

I am looking to install a more modern starter on my car. I want to replace the heavy original unit for a lighter one. The one off a 93 Mustang Cobra would fit the bill. However, I'm not sure how to connect the wires with the solenoid on the fender. I really don't want to loose the solenoid. Can I bypass the lighter starters solenoid and connect the power wire directly to the starter ? Thanks!

[machm1970 180]

It's an easy swap, I did it on mine a few years ago. The article linked below gives pretty good instructions.

http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2001/08/ministarter/index2.php

 

Matt

[MikeStang 247]

Yep its pretty simple process.

[MikeStang 247]

1. Move the big red wire on the solenoid that goes to the starter over to the other side of the Solenoid which is

"The battery Side".... Your basically just putting Straight power to the New Starter all the time, but it wont engage till you do step #2.

 

2. Route a new wire to the starter signal post from the location you removed the big starter wire off of and your good to go

[MikeStang 247]

Pic above is what it should look like when your done.

[ashleesmach1 28]

ok Cool Thanks!

[ashleesmach1 28]

It's an easy swap, I did it on mine a few years ago. The article linked below gives pretty good instructions.

http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2001/08/ministarter/index2.php

 

Matt

What starter did you use?

[MikeStang 247]

I used a starter from a 1995 Mustang with 5.0, they are all pretty much the same

[ashleesmach1 28]

Yes I know. Thanks!

[Mike65 475]

In the above diagram what gauge wire should be used for the orange wire from the fender solenoid to the solenoid on the starter?.

[MikeStang 247]

I think I used some 10g.

[Mike65 475]

Thanks Mike.

[ashleesmach1 28]

Are PGMR starters easy to rebuild?

[GypsyR 32]

I've been using PMGR starters from the salvage yard for years and have yet to have the starter itself give a problem. It's always the attached solenoid. I've replaced a BUNCH of those.

I've had one apart though. There's a small planetary gearset in one end but otherwise they're pretty much like any other starter rebuildable wise. Since you can buy a new off Ebay so cheaply rebuilding one hardly makes sense. 

I find it very annoying that you can buy a complete cheap off-brand PMGR with solenoid off Ebay cheaper than you can buy just the cheap off-brand solenoid at the local parts store. I wouldn't look down on one of those cheap Ebay type starters, lots of folks have been well pleased by how well they work and last. 

[ashleesmach1 28]

Are PGMR starters easy to rebuild?

I found a vid on U tube that shows a step by step way to rebuild the PMGR starter.

 

Here is the link: 

[ashleesmach1 28]

Apparently there is a automatic type starter and a manual type starter. They have different offsets.  

[MikeStang 247]

And the really sad part is the pick and pull wants damn near as much as a rebuilt unit from the parts store...When did Pick and pulls start getting as much for parts as the parts houses

[GypsyR 32]

My local "Pull-A-part" sells starters for $19.95 plus a $7 core charge.

The cheapest PMGR 1995 Mustang starter at my local O'reillys is $79 plus a $10 core.

Depends on where you shop. I don't have a problem with either price.

I do have a problem with O'Reillys (and all the rest) selling just the PMGR solenoid by itself for $50. I mean more than half the price of a complete starter WITH a solenoid on it. That's just wrong. About double what it should be priced at. Not that anybody is asking me...

Local salvage yards are asking @$25 for a used one.

I've noted over the years that parts prices can vary drastically depending on what part of the country you are in. Pretty cheap around here I guess.