69mach1build 22 Report post Posted May 10, 2016 I know that the pedals are different between manual and power brake applications. but what about the brake pedal support? I have a power car but want to switch to manual. Can I plug and play the manual pedal into it? 2 ceciletf18 and annta60 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RPM 1,190 Report post Posted May 10, 2016 Yes you can, as the supports are the same. The power uses the holes with the grey bushing, and the manual uses the hole in the upper part of the diagonal with the wear/rust/washer mark. Confused now? I am :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
69mach1build 22 Report post Posted May 10, 2016 Well in that case, is anyone looking to trade a manual brake pedal for a power pedal? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rsanter 152 Report post Posted May 10, 2016 Well in that case, is anyone looking to trade a manual brake pedal for a power pedal? Do you need one for auto trans or manual trans? Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rsanter 152 Report post Posted May 10, 2016 The pedal support are mostly the same but the manual brake pedal also has nutserts crimped in that will allow you to bolt your master cylinder in. The power support does not have these. In your case you will either need to weld nuts in place on your support or trade for a correct manual support Bob 1 RPM reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
69mach1build 22 Report post Posted May 10, 2016 hmmmm, I have a manual transmission setup. My fear is that with a .600+ lift cam I am not going to have vacuum to run a brake booster? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rsmach1 71 Report post Posted May 10, 2016 It's really cam duration/overlap that causes low vacuum issues, but with 600+ lift you probably have a decent amount of duration too. The alternative to going manual brakes would be to install an electric vacuum pump, or go with a hydraboost. Personally I don't care for the electric pumps, wich is why I went with manual brakes. West Coast Classic Cougar sells manual pedals (for both auto and manual transmission cars and last I checked for $50 or less), you can also find them on eBay. You can use an auto pedal but you have to cut it down to fit a manual pedal pad. What are the duration specs at .050 on your cam? If in the engine already how much vacuum do you have at idle? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerC 136 Report post Posted May 10, 2016 my manual brake set-up power brake pedal on right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RPM 1,190 Report post Posted May 11, 2016 Oops, I was ass backwards on the holes used. Top is power brake pedal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
69mach1build 22 Report post Posted May 12, 2016 This is where my clutch pedal connects to the support, im assuming there isn't supposed to be that much clearance? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rsanter 152 Report post Posted May 12, 2016 This is where my clutch pedal connects to the support, im assuming there isn't supposed to be that much clearance? 20160512_082139.jpg That ones toast..... Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RPM 1,190 Report post Posted May 12, 2016 It can be modified for a bearing and still used. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rsmach1 71 Report post Posted May 12, 2016 +1 with RPM, If you or someone you know can weld just do the bearing conversion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerC 136 Report post Posted May 12, 2016 +2, mine was much worse before I did the bearing conversion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prayers1 153 Report post Posted May 13, 2016 Check this out on Mustang Steve'shttp://www.mustangsteve.com/clutchbearings.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin427 18 Report post Posted May 15, 2016 I just did the same thing on my 69 4 speed car. I removed the power brakes because of the big cam in the 427 windsor. I used the power brake pedal support and just used bolts and poly lock nuts inside the car. for a brake pedal I found a manual brake pedal in a 69 Mercury Montego in the boneyard but it was for auto trans. that posed no issues since I just cut the pedal down to the stick pedal size. the pedals then lined up nicely. I also did the bearing conversion that I got from CJ's. One thing I found to do when installing the support and pedals with the bearing conversion is to install the support and do not tighten the firewall bolts untill the pedals are mounted through the bearings. Then go ahead and tighten the firewall bolts. I first tightened the firewall bolts and found that it twisted the pedal support just a hair to the point the clutch pedal would not slide in smoothly. works great now. 1 RPM reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skidmarky 50 Report post Posted May 16, 2016 I'm pretty sure I have a manual brake pedal support with auto pedal installed and ready to go. PM me if interested. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
