craigm 25 Report post Posted April 19, 2016 Has anyone converted the fake side scoops into functional brake cooling scoops? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
premix 12 Report post Posted April 20, 2016 I've always toyed with the idea, I don't think they would be much cop for brake cooling, you'll just end up cooling your tyre but it would look good to see them open. One day I'll have a go prob when it's time for a respray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ridge Runner 1,112 Report post Posted April 20, 2016 Has anyone converted the fake side scoops into functional brake cooling scoops? Very simple .You need the brake duct kit from Branda for the 69 Shelby .It is the fiberglass box that attaches to the inside of the quarter that covers the original scoop opening and the rubber hose that goes from the box to the wheel tub. .A hole has to be cut in the wheel tub for the hose to go into . Take the backing plate out of the original scoop and you will have functional rear brake scoops . 1 premix reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rsanter 152 Report post Posted April 20, 2016 I've seen it done a couple,of,times for the fastbacks. Seems like,it would not be that hard. For the coupe you would have to get the Shelby scoop or make one. After that there is not that much room between the window track and the qtr so,it would require you making a box in there that would lead to a hose Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Power 74 Report post Posted April 20, 2016 You have to keep in mind that the Shelby scoops stick out into the jet stream much further than the fairly flush regular fastback versions, and that sending air into the wheel well, especially if you have drum brakes, will have a fairly minimal effect. Could be cool from a cosmetic standpoint, of course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted April 20, 2016 If you are worried about brake fade, you should run some big brakes and the finned drums. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RPM 1,190 Report post Posted April 21, 2016 Hmm...don't think I've ever heard of a drum brake recommendation over disc brake for brake fade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnett468 418 Report post Posted April 21, 2016 Hmm...don't think I've ever heard of a drum brake recommendation over disc brake for brake fade. oops, I forgot to say "If you are running drum brakes in the rear...". That being said, drum brakes actually work extremely well providing they are set up properly . Their biggest performance drawback is that they suck if they get wet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969_Mach1 333 Report post Posted April 21, 2016 oops, I forgot to say "If you are running drum brakes in the rear...". That being said, drum brakes actually work extremely well providing they are set up properly . Their biggest performance drawback is that they suck if they get wet. I know, I think most are not aware of the dual-servo action of the drum brake shoes. As the front shoe contacts the drum, the shoes rotate slightly and further force (or wedge) the rear shoe into the drum. So both hydraulic pressure and this dual-servo action forces the shoes against the drum. Under normal driving they need less pedal effort than disk brakes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RPM 1,190 Report post Posted April 21, 2016 Plus you've got all that surface area. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Power 74 Report post Posted April 21, 2016 I know, I think most are not aware of the dual-servo action of the drum brake shoes. As the front shoe contacts the drum, the shoes rotate slightly and further force (or wedge) the rear shoe into the drum. So both hydraulic pressure and this dual-servo action forces the shoes against the drum. Under normal driving they need less pedal effort than disk brakes. Well, fortunately, we have things to assist in pedal effort. And while servo action is ducky, the design is horrid for dissipating heat. It's why the underpowered Jags beat the overpowered Cunninghams in sports car racing 60 years ago, and it still applies today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969_Mach1 333 Report post Posted April 21, 2016 Yes I know drum brakes have poor cooling capability and the associated heat issues compared to disk brakes. That's why I used the phrase "Under normal driving ...". I've had a couple of cars with manual 4 wheel drum brakes, a 67 Ford Fairlane, and a 1956 Ford F150 pick up. And I've had a Challenger and now my 69 Mach 1 with power disk brakes and motors that make only 10-12 inches of vacuum at idle. And comparing pedal effort of these cars, again for normal driving, the manual drum brake cars were as easy to stop. If one doesn't know, it's often hard to determine if a manual drum brake car has power assist or not. I'm not advocating drum brakes. And if you drive the car hard on a track or through, say, California's commute traffic, they might not be the best choice. But being old enough to have owned and driven cars with 4 wheel drum brakes, I just think for normal driving they are often perceived to be much worse than they actually are mainly because of the older technology. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Power 74 Report post Posted April 22, 2016 I have also owned many cars with 4 wheel drums, and I never will again. I had a 69 Mach Q code car, heavily modified, and wow, what an imbalance between goa and whoa....LOL! 1 RPM reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites