Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
JTG

JTG's '69 Mach I restoration

Recommended Posts

JT,

Just looking at some of your pics, nice work. I have replaced 1 door skin on my Coupe, both outer wheel houses, 1 trunk drop off, 1 trunk floor, 1 door shell, tail light panel, rear gas tank support panel, 1 trunk floor l/s, both front inner fender panels, patch the rot holes (4) where the inner fender panels overlap the top of the shock tower flange, & both quarter skins. I am now working on replacing both torque boxes. Looks like you are or did pretty much the same metal work as me.

Mike.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A two year old build thread, and I just see it tonight? Wth? Very cool story, especially the wife and her wanting you to keep it. Does she have a twin sister??? What is it with body shop guys and boats? I know 4 body shop owners who have boats. Crazy. Enjoyed reading your build, keep up the good work.

 

Bob

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Body shop guys and boats. Well I think to own a boat you need to either be rich or know how to fix stuff. And since most body shop guys know how to fix stuff. Or maybe it's because they are tired of working on cars all the time so working on a boat isn't so bad.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's been a while since my last update. I got the passenger side door skin on without issue. The most recent panel to replace was the driver's side shock tower. This was a big one for me because it caused me some problem a long time ago. I bought the car in '88 when I was 18 and back then NJ had a full inspection every one. To test the brakes they would drive the car about 50' and slam on the brakes. Yeah, my shock tower cracked during the test. I left and the car was pulling hard. I was 18 so I didn't have the time, money or desire to do a full replacement so I found a guy to patch it up.

 

Last week I cut it out, that's a job with a 3" wheel. Here it is all removed.

43DF069E-E5DF-44C2-B1C1-E67B6A3D37F6_zpsr9hyw6gh.jpg

 

Found some rust on the top of the framerail.

DFDC93D8-3C1E-43D0-9714-7FFA379A37CC_zpso4kjqhmc.jpg

 

And the patch.

5BB0E63B-12E0-4C47-A1B5-7F04C04BE7F2_zpsgsqznspp.jpg

 

And here it is all welded in. It was nice have the bolt holes to line everything up. You don't have that with many panel replacements.

98225F7F-58C5-4774-9428-9EC4A54AFD63_zps41fkwq0m.jpg

 

I posted this in another thread but to keep everything together I'll add this here. I noticed the new part did not have a couple of holes used for a bracket on the old part. Below is a picture of a bracket for the power steering lines. I didn't drill the new holes yet, waiting until I get closer to make sure I go stock with it or not.

FD5AFE87-F320-4410-BF7E-52BBAC287D52_zpsmqz2b2so.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

With the shock tower in that completed the repairs for the driver's side of the car. Now I need to move over to the passenger side. I already did the torque box as one of my first replacements and the door also. I need to turn the car around to do the quarter area (quarter skin, outer wheelhouse and trunk dropoff. I also have the battery apron, shock tower and frame patch at the front. As you can see from my earlier pics the car is on jackstands. Fortunately I was able to get a dolly from a guy who just finished using it for a vette. Here's a pic of the base.

 

55E97CF5-9481-4CA8-B9C8-AF30D0949812_zpscieiwhqh.jpg

 

And here's the car on the dolly. The guy with the vette was an electrician hence the parts used but it really is a great way to design a dolly. It's very easy to adjust. I used the front leafspring mounts for the rear mounts. The fronts were a little tricky because I couldn't use the bumper mounts because I still had to replace the passenger side. I put the rail under the car with a threaded rod going up through a hole in the frame. This hole lines up with the drainage hole in the floor pan. The car is easy to move around the garage. Now I just need to figure out the best way to keep it steady when I'm working on it, the wheels do not have locks.

 

88029D4A-607E-400C-8B58-DF9B70481BFE_zpsyile5mhn.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks. Cutting the shock tower out was no fun but putting the new one in went much better than I thought it would. I would recommend it for anyone on the fence about replacing these. I was unsure about doing the passenger side but looking at the old vs new I'm putting a new one in that side too.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Good work so far ! Feels good when you jump a big hurdle. As for the car dolly, I don't think I ever considered using that kind of tubing. Looks like it will work Ok and if you mount the car right you can even use it for a datum reference. Here are a couple cheap idea's to hold it in place vs buying and having to mount new caster wheel's with locks. The first one is only a couple of bucks but the second one would probably work better and have to buy fewer. Just a thought :001_cool: Good luck with the other side.

 

download.jpg

 

58d5e9b9-0aa3-47f3-b6ca-cd75413c17f6.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I kept the dolly locking simple and just wrapped an old t-shirt around a couple of the wheels.

 

I replaced the passenger side quarter, trunk dropdown and outer wheelhouse using the same method as the driver's side.

 

Here it is all cut out.

A805E827-B269-4FA9-BFAB-225A5CBF90B9_zps0e2hbpz6.jpg

 

There were a couple of small patches needed on this side.

C078B629-4144-4BBB-9DB4-F737EBB82A5F_zpsc7lgdwnn.jpg

 

C2CB6C73-028B-4AAF-B433-34D458FDFA05_zpsfk7vprja.jpg

 

I still need to take the finished product pic for the quarter but it's all done.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

After the batter tray it was the front frame rail and shock tower. I got the frame rail piece from Mike65 and it worked perfectly.

 

Before

4B827867-5BE6-496E-949E-6BCD750FD0C1_zpsibtlcrb4.jpg

 

And after, sorry the bracket for the rotisserie was already installed.

Framerail2_zps77e257da.jpg

 

With the battery tray in place I was able to cut out the shock tower and bolt in the new one while it was being welded. The existing shock tower wasn't that bad, no cracks or anything but the frame was bad around it and I replaced the driver's side so I figured I should do this one also.

 

Here it is all cut out.

A8760120-42AC-41AA-9866-E9A264617642_zpshbtuqtbw.jpg

 

Here's some of the rust.

742D5140-2DA8-4F7D-AA96-15AEECA7DDA0_zpsbkmmxgyz.jpg

 

BE1297EC-DCD3-4880-917A-E659F412040A_zpsbcanisbw.jpg

 

And of course the usual rust where the apron and tower overlap

B78A9893-CAE7-47E2-98F3-85526CDCFB3C_zpswnt0uxpm.jpg

 

First the frame patches.

4E650657-91C5-4E80-A5DD-ED2A4649B977_zpscsieo84a.jpg

 

F4B0AB8F-B0E4-4163-A744-FB9555DA6772_zpskcs1ukgz.jpg

 

And then the new tower welded in.

3CE69AEC-9261-4E17-A8EA-8646B989C1D3_zpsyfqofkyj.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Now the only welding I know I have left on the body is a few small patches and subframe connectors. So I started building a rotisserie. I grabbed every engine stand that I could over the last couple of years and ended up with four. One is currently holding up the 351W so I used the other three to build the rotisserie. I used the idea I saw online of using 2" square tubing for the vertical and put a 2.5" piece around it a a slider. All three of the stands had rectangular tubing for the verticals and 2" square for the base. I cut up all three verticals to use for the 6 gussets. I cut up one of the bases to use the square tubing. I built a hitch tray years ago and since I don't really use that anymore I took the 2" and 2.5" from that.

 

For the brackets I used the leftover unistrut I used for the dolly. It worked out pretty good. In the front I used the bumper bolts. It flexed a bit so I also bolted it to the upper radiator support. I the back bolted it using the bumper bolt holes.

 

Here's the front stand. Don't worry I drilled out the holes to lock the slider in place.

B00104D1-618F-4193-B74D-C764E39BC179_zpsm0vwtkbs.jpg

 

Here's a closeup of the front slider with the circular tubing from the stand welded to it. Since I used rectangular tubing and bolted it to the radiator support I was able to make it adjustable.

4D436CD8-B1BB-43DE-B4BF-A42589BA6FC3_zps93wksz8q.jpg

 

Another picture of the front.

94D8A297-2027-46EF-8BA2-22D11A7A9F25_zpsimxwsjol.jpg

 

Here's a picture of the rear slider. I put a set screw (bolt) in the rear to allow us to hold up the slider while we were lifting the car. The clamp is a backup. Once we got the car to the right height and drilled a hole all the way through and put a bolt.

DABAC9A4-18E1-467E-90C6-E74DCEF6E418_zpscy8aptix.jpg

 

And here's the car on its side. Now it's time to scrape and clean!

08AE091E-2193-4661-A398-4EA06AEE2E07_zpspcsab2ba.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Just one small suggestion ,Widen the back bar to at least 4 feet wide .If you happen to get it off balance it could tip over .A friend brought me a 67 Shelby to do some work on ,he wanted to try his new rotisserie .I told him i thought the lower rear cross bar was to short and if the wheels turned the wrong way it could tip .No !he had to use the new rotisserie .Got it mounted and as he tried to turn it over it started to lift the wheels off the ground .If i had not caught it it would have flipped the whole thing .we wound up clamping another longer tube to the lower bar to keep it from lifting and flipping ..Yeah he still wanted to use the new rotisserie .

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just one small suggestion ,Widen the back bar to at least 4 feet wide .If you happen to get it off balance it could tip over .A friend brought me a 67 Shelby to do some work on ,he wanted to try his new rotisserie .I told him i thought the lower rear cross bar was to short and if the wheels turned the wrong way it could tip .No !he had to use the new rotisserie .Got it mounted and as he tried to turn it over it started to lift the wheels off the ground .If i had not caught it it would have flipped the whole thing .we wound up clamping another longer tube to the lower bar to keep it from lifting and flipping ..Yeah he still wanted to use the new rotisserie .

 

Excellent advice. I widened mine which were probably ok to start with.

 

 

 

IMG_20130421_174702_zps5fa0aba1.jpg

 

Bob

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I build my own rotisseries ,They are hitch and receiver tubing so they slide together .When not in use they fold up into a 4' x 2' x 4 foot high unit i can roll out of the way .I went double side bars so i can load it on a car trailer if i need to .It is adjustable every where so i can mount any thing on it and balance it.This one never got painted ,i had a car waiting the moment it was finished and as soon as car comes off there is another one waiting .I have two of my own and i really need a third ,i have made several for friends .

img_1735-jpg.72274img_1737-jpg.72276img_1702-jpg.71966

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have it set up for 65 -70 mustangs now ,all i have to do is drill some new pinning holes to mount something else ,At the most make just the mounting ends .I would like to motorize one with a reduction motor for when i sand blast ,although i would have to cover the motor to keep the sand out .

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have it set up for 65 -70 mustangs now ,all i have to do is drill some new pinning holes to mount something else ,At the most make just the mounting ends .I would like to motorize one with a reduction motor for when i sand blast ,although i would have to cover the motor to keep the sand out .

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Sign in to follow this  

×
×
  • Create New...