Starting questions

[Daves69Coupe 10]

So my fuel pumps working and getting gas to carb but Im just getting a backfire through carb and out exhaust when starting. Is the problem now not a strong enough spark? I also dont have the electric choke wired up, so all 4 barrels arent opening. Is this a possible problem?

 

The spark plugs not spaced properly?

 

Dizzy not curved right?

[69RavenConv 286]

Check your ignition timing -- it's likely your dizzy is twisted too far one or the other.

[BuckeyeDemon 211]

are your wires correct? correct firing order?

 

just throwing out ideas beyond adjusting the initial.

 

what was the problem with your fuel system?

[etel64 10]

+1 on Buckeye, order order order ! need the cam data fo sho.

[Daves69Coupe 10]

are your wires correct? correct firing order?

 

just throwing out ideas beyond adjusting the initial.

 

what was the problem with your fuel system?

 

havent figured out why Im not getting enough fuel from tank.

 

Pumping gas from gas can through pump and up to carb.

[Daves69Coupe 10]

+1 on Buckeye, order order order ! need the cam data fo sho.

 

dont have cam data, PO re-built engine.

[etel64 10]

im assuming a small block. here is the order for my 351w = 13726548, plugs at 0.034. distributor spins counter clockwise. ensure its on compression stroke tdc. im pretty sure there are only (2) different firing orders for the small blocks.

[Mike65 475]

Dave, try checking the firing order, & then the timing. Has the engine run since the rebuild?.

[Daves69Coupe 10]

im assuming a small block. here is the order for my 351w = 13726548, plugs at 0.034. distributor spins counter clockwise. ensure its on compression stroke tdc. im pretty sure there are only (2) different firing orders for the small blocks.

 

 

its a ford 302.

 

How can I check compression stroke tdc?

[Daves69Coupe 10]

Dave, try checking the firing order, & then the timing. Has the engine run since the rebuild?.

 

the PO ran it after the rebuild. I just took the top heads and intake off the car when I got it to make sure it was actually rebuilt.

 

I was under the impression I could only time car when running, how can I time it?

[BuckeyeDemon 211]

its a ford 302.

 

How can I check compression stroke tdc?

 

being a 302 block doesn't mean the cam was ground with a 302 firing order.

 

comp sold me a cam with a cam card clearly indicating a 302 firing order. after a month of scratching my head it turned out to be a 351 firing order.

 

pull a plug and put your finger on the hole.

 

you can get the timing somewhat close simply by putting the #1 cylinder at 10-14 degress BTC on the compression stroke and looking at where the rotor is pointing (mark the dizzy base where the #1 plug is). this will at least get you within a tooth.

[Daves69Coupe 10]

being a 302 block doesn't mean the cam was ground with a 302 firing order.

 

comp sold me a cam with a cam card clearly indicating a 302 firing order. after a month of scratching my head it turned out to be a 351 firing order.

 

pull a plug and put your finger on the hole.

 

you can get the timing somewhat close simply by putting the #1 cylinder at 10-14 degress BTC on the compression stroke and looking at where the rotor is pointing (mark the dizzy base where the #1 plug is). this will at least get you within a tooth.

 

how can I tell when #1 cylinder is at 10-14 degrees BTC?

[BuckeyeDemon 211]

how can I tell when #1 cylinder is at 10-14 degrees BTC?

 

timing marks on your damper (assuming they are somewhat accurate). make sure it's the compression stroke.

[Daves69Coupe 10]

just watched this video. I believe I know what to do now.

 

[Daves69Coupe 10]

is this where I need to do timing from on 302? D0nt see lines on balancer tho.

[Daves69Coupe 10]

I dont see a pointer on my timing cover. What pointer do I need for this timing cover. See pic.

[Daves69Coupe 10]

will this point fit over the crank sensor mount thats on my timing cover?

 

http://www.cjponyparts.com/5-0-timing-pointer/p/F1TZ6023A/

[BuckeyeDemon 211]

i'm familar with the earlier engine's where the timing pointer is on the driver's side.

 

is your water inlet on the driver's side?

 

do you see timing marks anywhere?

 

it seems like the original dampers would only show a limited amount of timing marks.

[Daves69Coupe 10]

its an 87 5.0 engine and I believe the covers an 80s also. So i think I should mount it on passenger side.

[Mike 10]

Happened to me once and figured out that I had the distributor out 180 degrees, you might want to try to lift out you're distributor and turn the rotor half a turn then drop it back in. Might work.