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Retrofitting Instrument Panel w/ Autometer Gauges

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Does anybody know if I can use my stock Mustang Grande Instrument Pods as a housing for Autometer Gauges? And what Kind of gauges I could use? I really dont want to shell out $700 on a digital gauge cluster...

Honestly, Id rather make my own.

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Yes it can be done the sizes you will need for the Speedo and Tach are 3-3/8inch and the others will be 2-1/16inch just keep in mind you will have to put in turn signal indicators and a high beam indicator aswell. As for what kind of gauges you can use its really up to you most gauges come in those sizes but Autometer and Speedhut gauges are really going to be the easiest to install. And the majority will use a electric speedo so you will have to get the conversion gear to send the signal to the speedo Jegs and Summit sell them for around $50.00. I used the Autometer Sport Comp II gauges in a yearone bezel and I love the way they look and really simple to hook up.

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5" speedometer and tachometer can be used as well. Here is 70_Fastback's gauges with the 5"ers. You can see that you lose the Autometer trim ring. I plan on using 5" gauges but will fiberglass my own angled guage separator so that the trim rings are still visible.

 

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JohnPro's with 3 3/8" gauges:

 

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And a few links with some info: http://www.stangfix.com/testforum2/index.php/topic,10760.msg134254.html#msg134254

http://classic-web.archive.org/web/20091026223135/geocities.com/kvinkler/gauges/page_01.htm

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The above examples are using the original gauge housing. The Year One housing would be the easy way to go but you'll pay for that convenience. It also allows 4 smaller gauges compared to only 2 with the OEM housing.

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Im curious as to how much fabrication goes into these. It looks like to me there is little fabrication unless you want to use some fiber glass resin and material to house the autometer gauges to show trim(whatever that means)?

 

Very little from what I can tell. That last link I posted shows it eliminating the steel factory gauge housings but still using the stock angled gauge separators. Take a look at those links and you'll get a better idea.

 

The Year One cluster, AFAIK, is only available in black camera. If you have a deluxe woodgrain interior, the JME is the only one that has woodgrain. That one is much more expensive than the Year One.

 

http://www.mustangdepot.com/OnLineCatalog/Interior/jme_697.htm

 

In fact, its $600 for only the housing but I don't see the woodgrain one available by itself.

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I'm definitely going to be using my stock instrument bezel and place the gauges in it. I can do without Water Temp and such as I already have Water Temp/Voltage gauges on my A-Pillar. I will mount Fuel Speedo Tach and Oil Pressure. 2 5/8 gauges for oil and fuel and I havent decided on whether or not to use 5" on Speed/Tach. As I understand the 5" will not fit within the bezel and has to have some fabrication so maybe I will use something smaller.

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http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATM-5292/

 

is this the type of speedo conversion part that I will need in order to plug in my cable and convert it over to electronic to work with the autometer gauges or something else?

Yes thats the one I believe that speedhut makes one identical to that think it might be alittle cheaper too I dont remember them being $80.00

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I havent decided on whether or not to use 5" on Speed/Tach. As I understand the 5" will not fit within the bezel and has to have some fabrication so maybe I will use something smaller.

 

As you can see above in the pictures, the 5" basically puts the Autometer's bezel/ring on the outside of the factory plastic gauge angle/spacer. You maximize your opening with the 5" as long as you don't mind the bezel not being visible like on the smaller gauges. I plan on using 5" gauges and making my own angle/spacer, making it fluted so that it increases in diameter as you get to the gauge. This means that the Autometer bezel will still be visible

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As you can see above in the pictures, the 5" basically puts the Autometer's bezel/ring on the outside of the factory plastic gauge angle/spacer. You maximize your opening with the 5" as long as you don't mind the bezel not being visible like on the smaller gauges. I plan on using 5" gauges and making my own angle/spacer, making it fluted so that it increases in diameter as you get to the gauge. This means that the Autometer bezel will still be visible

 

3 3/8" for the speedo and tach if you want the AM Gauges to fit within the bezel.

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I recall Corpse made some kind of spacer so that the full face of the gauges would show. I know in some of the conversions it looks a little half-ass'd when the stock bezel covers some part of the face. Look at the one I posted (Corpse's) versus some of the others.

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http://www.1969stang.com/mustang/forum/showthread.php?t=6544

 

Take a look at this. I used SpeedHut. It's a 4 in. tach & speedo & 2 5/8". I installed the factory lenses in front of the gauges. What was nice about their gauges, as you can see in the pic. it's a cup with a nut that goes around it. So I used all the factory internals from the original instrument cluster & used a piece of plastic, cut a hole for the gauges & screwed the nut tight against it. For all 6 gauges, (you can pick your colors), I paid about $780.

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