Is this real and how mush is it worth?

[daxman 10]

I am looking at buying a 69 Mach 1. The VIN is vin # 9t02m135747 and the door tag reads this 9t02m135747 63c t5 3d 14l 25 9 X . Is this a real Mach 1? I have been told everything is origional except the carb and intake. The paint is 10 years old but shines great. I know the wheels are not origional and have been told everything works except the second hand on the clock. Does anyone know what thei car is worth? Thanks for your help.

[midnightrider101 10]

Its a real mach1. Is it rusty underneath? Its a new jersy built car & most of those east coast cars are very rusty underneath, I know I bought a couple of them before. Looks like a $20K car. Make sure you examine the underside before you buy like the frame rails & floor pans, etc. I have a #'s macthing 69 mach1 351W 4spd project car for sale at $5000, its rusty as it was from texas, probaly would require a donor body or one of them new dynacorp bodies.

[daxman 10]

The car has no rust and is numbers matching. Is $20K really the going price on these cars? I was thinking between 25K and 30K.

[SlimeGold 69 15]

The car has no rust and is numbers matching. Is $20K really the going price on these cars? I was thinking between 25K and 30K.

 

Yeah, I would say 20K is about right for a rust free small block Mach. Prices have fell on all Muscle Cars the last couple of years because of the economy. Big block cars would be in the 25K+ range, at least that's what I've noticed watching ebay auctions.

[S code 69 13]

From thre pictures I can see several things not original like the steering wheel, about $700 there, air cleaner and I'm not sure what that worth and aftermarket A/C which is a good thing if you don't care about originality.

 

So if he says the only things not original are the carb and and intake you know you can't go by what he says. still if it isn't a rust bucket it looks like a decent car, 20k would be my guess as well.

[daxman 10]

Thanks for all the help guys, thats great information.

[tony 63C 14]

Yeah, I would say 20K is about right for a rust free small block Mach. Prices have fell on all Muscle Cars the last couple of years because of the economy. Big block cars would be in the 25K+ range, at least that's what I've noticed watching ebay auctions.

Being in the market for a good half year I agree with these closing ebay auction prices. But it’s worth noting that very few are actually selling. 9 out of 10 times the reserves aren’t being met. So sellers are opting to hold on rather than let their cars go for cheap.

To be quite honest, notwithstanding the economic doldrums, I am very surprised – even mildly shocked - at how low market prices are and the slow bidding. Before my unexpected jump into the hunt for my 69 Mach I was expecting prices to be much higher than they are. I’ve been away from anything to do with the car hobby for a good two decades, and I distinctly recall in the late 1990’s reading about how hot the muscle car market was. At that point as a young father with three young kids, a mortgage and locked in expense-hell I never expected to ever afford my dream of once again owning a Mach 1. Prices are a good half of what I was expecting to pay for the small block Mach that I just purchased. It’s been the only up-side to the global financial gloom!

Regards,

Tony

[S code 69 13]

The market peaked a couple years ago and it's hard to say if we'll ever see those prices again. still so what, real estate and the stock market are as bad or worse.

 

One thing I'd say to those in the market is while I'm a buy a solid car and fix it myself guy I think today that is the expensive way to go. when I bought my Challenger and Superbee there was no way I could buy cars of the quality I have for what it cost me to restore them , today that's not the case. by the time my Mach 1 is done I am pretty sure I could have bought one cheaper, if I had hired anything other than the final body work and paint done I'm sure I could have. it's a buyers market, but like everything it has a bottom, we may be there depending on the economy.

[Denver69 10]

sale-eqfvc-1447781479@craigslist.org Here is a link to a Mach for sale here in the Denver area. I have not seen it in person but looks like a nice car for just under $20K. Its been for sale for several months. I would make an aggressive offer on the car you are looking at, as a lot of posts have said, it's a buyers market, ESPECIALLY if you have cash!

[tony 63C 14]

. . . real estate and the stock market are as bad or worse.

 

Fortunately, not so bad as I’m largely invested in Canadian stocks, and here on the west coast real estate remains strong. The very few69 mach 1’s I’ve seen for sale up here in Canada remain very highly priced. I looked at two local ones – an original paint survivor ’69 S-code with 36000 miles for $50000 Canadian ($47K USD), and a 351W with some shaky body work but otherwise clean rust free for $35K USD. I went south of the line to buy my ’69 351W, 95% done leaving me to bring her up to my specs over the winter. It cost me $22K, and there’s much more invested into the car than that. I'll put in the $3000 it needs and I'm certain to be able to resell for a profit, not that I have that in mind. So I agree, definitely a buyers market in the US.

 

Cheers,

Tony

Edited November 5, 2009 by tony 63C

[S code 69 13]

Interesting, I figured your economy would follow ours pretty close due to as much trade as we have. I'm in Oregon and the real estate market here is flat awful.

 

This isn't the place to do it but a quick question to you as a Canadian, what do you think of your health care system? does it suck as bad as our politians tell us ? I ask this of every Canadian I meet . as you well know health care is a hot topic here in the states, I don't know what we're going to do but something has got to change at 10% or 20% raises in insurance a year it's just a matter of time until only tycoons can afford it.

[tony 63C 14]

Interesting, I figured your economy would follow ours pretty close due to as much trade as we have. I'm in Oregon and the real estate market here is flat awful.

 

This isn't the place to do it but a quick question to you as a Canadian, what do you think of your health care system? does it suck as bad as our politians tell us ? I ask this of every Canadian I meet . as you well know health care is a hot topic here in the states, I don't know what we're going to do but something has got to change at 10% or 20% raises in insurance a year it's just a matter of time until only tycoons can afford it.

The Canadian economy is also in recession, After all, 75% of our GDP heads south of the border, so we are very dependent on you guys. Out here in Vancouver B.C. we have the run up to the Olympics that has created a bit of a buffer. Property values did drop, although since have recovered almost completely. But having said all that, once the two week party for the world in February is over we’ll have the inevitable debt to face, so the hangover won’t be nice. I’ll also add that I remain pessimistic about the long range economic picture for North America. I am fiscally conservative, and I just shudder at what I see going on in Washington DC. At a time when government MUST look at serious belt tightening they have escalated spending to stratospheric levels. The reckless unprecedented spending that started with Bush has been intensified and multiplied by Obama. They are printing money like there’s no tomorrow, and putting in place such idiotic and crippling nonsense such as cap and trade along with other misguided and proven failed concepts. What the hell are they thinking over there?

And this ties in to your question about the medical system up here. I’m not sure about the individual financial burden on each person in the US to ensure they have proper medical care, but from what I understand people in need are not turned from hospitals to die in the gutter somewhere. Please don’t look to Michael Moore’s utopian vision (actually twisted lies) of what we have as being the model system. While the care level is generally good (when you finally get it) - after all we are a modern western nation with up to date equipment and trained professionals - the system is terribly bloated and inefficient. It remains perpetually in financial crisis. Waits for treatment are very long, hospital beds are closing, doctors and nurses are leaving en mass to the US, one cannot find a family doctor, and people are dying needlessly as a result. My wife – a fitness buff - had to wait over two years for surgery to repair her torn ACL. While not a life threatening issue , try living on a bum knee for two years. I can get my dog in for surgery tomorrow – but if you’re a human you’re out of luck. There simply is never enough cash to keep dumping into the medical black hole. Although it may arguable be overly simplistic, I see the government bent on preventing private health care along with unions as being the biggest culprit here. The unions have driven up costs in the usual manner that they are so good at while sucking at the trough of public money. And from what I see, it looks like the SEIU and others down there are just frothing at the mouth to see Obamacare get rammed through. No system is without it’s flaws, but when I see time and time again people from here being sent to the US for treatment because our system can’t handle it, or there is just better medical care in the US, it brings to mind the old maxim – ‘don’t fix it if it ain’t broke’. It doesn’t appear that the socialist steamroller in Washington is considering this as the try to reinvent the wheel..

:whistling: Sorry for the rant . . but you asked! :001_smile:

Cheers,

T.

[EastYorkStang 63]

Tried that link on Craigslist but it's not working. Any more details?

[tony 63C 14]

Tried that link on Craigslist but it's not working. Any more details?

 

I had the same problem.

 

Go to the craigslist main page that lists all the cities. Click on Denver. Then enter the item number in the search field and the listing will pop up.

 

For under 20G this looks like a decent car based on the pictures and description. It’s a bit surprising that it hasn’t sold – a possible indicator of a hidden problem

 

Regards,

T.

[S code 69 13]

Tony not to take up anymore space here on this issue but thanks for your reply, most Canadian I talk to when I'm up there hunting are happier than you seem to be with your system, but that's why I ask.

 

By the way our system is broke, both figurativly and literally. you're right nobody is turned away at the hospital but the hospitals are going broke and our premiums are going sky high to cover them. my wife and I are in our 40's and have never had a health problem, our deductable is $5,000 each and for an 80% co-pay it's $500 a month and we'll pay 13% more next year. I can afford it, some can't and many employers are feeling the pinch, something will give at some point.

 

This is a good topic but it needs to go elsewhere so I'll shut up.

[tony 63C 14]

Thanks s-code –

One final quickie (so we’ll both be on even ground with two posts on this!)

It’s not that I am totally displeased with our medical care up here, but the existing system is in complete crisis and is also broke - both ways. And from my perspective it is in a much worse condition than yours. This is what has me most concerned for the near future. With the aging population (btw - I’m also in my 40’s) the outlook is bleak indeed. As far as costs - we are much more heavily taxed up here than Americans, a good portion of which goes towards our “free†medical system. On top of that as a household I pay an “MSP†premium of about $1300 and all additional ‘user costs’ that are charged to us when our group benefits don’t cover medications, procedures, etc.

Converting your existing system to the Canadian model is jumping from the frying pan into the incinerator.

Enough said! Back to mustangs . . .