jerry69 10 Report post Posted July 8, 2008 Does anyone know if there is a kit to convert any 60's Mustang or other classics to a flex fuel car that can run gas and E-85 or as much as E-100 ethanol ? If so, who is the company that sells it and what's involved ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerry69 10 Report post Posted July 8, 2008 Does anyone know if there is a kit to convert any 60's Mustang or other classics to a flex fuel car that can run gas and E-85 or as much as E-100 ethanol ? If so, who is the company that sells it and what's involved ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnickel 10,004 Report post Posted July 10, 2008 there are several companies that sell e-85 and alcohol carbs and most replacement fuel pumps "should" be compatible with e-85 or you may have to use an clky pump as well, other that that all you really need to worry about is replacing the flexible rubber fuel lines with e-85 capable hose and possibly sealing the gas tank and maybe running SS hard lines. but there are no conversion kits out to my knowledge at the moment Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnickel 10,004 Report post Posted July 10, 2008 there are several companies that sell e-85 and alcohol carbs and most replacement fuel pumps "should" be compatible with e-85 or you may have to use an clky pump as well, other that that all you really need to worry about is replacing the flexible rubber fuel lines with e-85 capable hose and possibly sealing the gas tank and maybe running SS hard lines. but there are no conversion kits out to my knowledge at the moment Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerry69 10 Report post Posted July 10, 2008 My wife's friend is having their 302 engine rebuilt in their 67 fastback and restored, it will be able to run both E85 and gas.... When it's done I'll check it out and see what they did... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerry69 10 Report post Posted July 10, 2008 My wife's friend is having their 302 engine rebuilt in their 67 fastback and restored, it will be able to run both E85 and gas.... When it's done I'll check it out and see what they did... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnickel 10,004 Report post Posted July 10, 2008 i'm planning on building the cougar up to run either E85 or propane as well as regular gasoline. at the moment i'm thinking about doing propane injection with the injectors on the bottom side of the intake, kind of like a hidden nitrous setup, and using a holley pro-jection on top for the gas or E-85. the engine will be my dream enigine i've always wanted to build, a roller cam, aluminum head, long rod, fuel injected 351w with around 10.25:1 or so compression. with the long rod and modern efficient combustion chamber of the heads combined with fuel injection i should still be able to run reguar fuel with no worries about detonation or pre-ignition. i also plan to use as many internal engine coatings as possible, like piston skirt coatings, thermal barrier coatings on the piston and cylinder head combustion surfaces, oil shedding coatings on the crank and rods with oil retaining coatings on the bearing surfaces and ceramic coatings on the bottom and inside of the intake manifold and exhaust manifolds or headers. even with all the mods i still want the engine to look basically stock as long as the air cleaner is on. even with it off it won't look too far from stock except for the holley pro-jection throttle body.in the end i'm looking to get around 375-400hp from the engine and still be able to pull down close to 30mpg on the highway. i think it's doable with the right combination of parts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnickel 10,004 Report post Posted July 10, 2008 i'm planning on building the cougar up to run either E85 or propane as well as regular gasoline. at the moment i'm thinking about doing propane injection with the injectors on the bottom side of the intake, kind of like a hidden nitrous setup, and using a holley pro-jection on top for the gas or E-85. the engine will be my dream enigine i've always wanted to build, a roller cam, aluminum head, long rod, fuel injected 351w with around 10.25:1 or so compression. with the long rod and modern efficient combustion chamber of the heads combined with fuel injection i should still be able to run reguar fuel with no worries about detonation or pre-ignition. i also plan to use as many internal engine coatings as possible, like piston skirt coatings, thermal barrier coatings on the piston and cylinder head combustion surfaces, oil shedding coatings on the crank and rods with oil retaining coatings on the bearing surfaces and ceramic coatings on the bottom and inside of the intake manifold and exhaust manifolds or headers. even with all the mods i still want the engine to look basically stock as long as the air cleaner is on. even with it off it won't look too far from stock except for the holley pro-jection throttle body.in the end i'm looking to get around 375-400hp from the engine and still be able to pull down close to 30mpg on the highway. i think it's doable with the right combination of parts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerry69 10 Report post Posted July 11, 2008 I would say that's a great way to go... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerry69 10 Report post Posted July 11, 2008 I would say that's a great way to go... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stangme428 33 Report post Posted July 13, 2008 what coating products do you plan on using? any sites you can point to for research? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stangme428 33 Report post Posted July 13, 2008 what coating products do you plan on using? any sites you can point to for research? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnickel 10,004 Report post Posted July 14, 2008 this is the main one here http://techlinecoatings.com/application_guide.htm and this is the other one. http://polydyn.com/performance_coatings.htm i think Eastwood sells a few coatings as well so you may try looking on their site too. it's fairly inexpensive if you do the coatings yourself. i've never used these coatings before but i have used some of Polydyn's other products in the past Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnickel 10,004 Report post Posted July 14, 2008 this is the main one here http://techlinecoatings.com/application_guide.htm and this is the other one. http://polydyn.com/performance_coatings.htm i think Eastwood sells a few coatings as well so you may try looking on their site too. it's fairly inexpensive if you do the coatings yourself. i've never used these coatings before but i have used some of Polydyn's other products in the past Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stangme428 33 Report post Posted July 14, 2008 wow.... opened a can of worms..... now I have to research more.... thanks for the info... :tongue_smilie: this is the main one here http://techlinecoatings.com/application_guide.htm and this is the other one. http://polydyn.com/performance_coatings.htm i think Eastwood sells a few coatings as well so you may try looking on their site too. it's fairly inexpensive if you do the coatings yourself. i've never used these coatings before but i have used some of Polydyn's other products in the past Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stangme428 33 Report post Posted July 14, 2008 wow.... opened a can of worms..... now I have to research more.... thanks for the info... :tongue_smilie: this is the main one here http://techlinecoatings.com/application_guide.htm and this is the other one. http://polydyn.com/performance_coatings.htm i think Eastwood sells a few coatings as well so you may try looking on their site too. it's fairly inexpensive if you do the coatings yourself. i've never used these coatings before but i have used some of Polydyn's other products in the past Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnickel 10,004 Report post Posted July 14, 2008 wow.... opened a can of worms..... now I have to research more.... thanks for the info... :tongue_smilie: do a google search and you'll likely find even more info and other places where you can get your own coatings as well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnickel 10,004 Report post Posted July 14, 2008 wow.... opened a can of worms..... now I have to research more.... thanks for the info... :tongue_smilie: do a google search and you'll likely find even more info and other places where you can get your own coatings as well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnickel 10,004 Report post Posted July 14, 2008 stangme428 do you have any pics of your car? i'd love to see what you've already done so far, from what you have in your sig it sounds like a pretty wicked little car Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnickel 10,004 Report post Posted July 14, 2008 stangme428 do you have any pics of your car? i'd love to see what you've already done so far, from what you have in your sig it sounds like a pretty wicked little car Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stangme428 33 Report post Posted July 19, 2008 stangme428 do you have any pics of your car? i'd love to see what you've already done so far, from what you have in your sig it sounds like a pretty wicked little car bnickel, i posted in the project progress forum.. http://www.1969stang.com/mustang/forum/showthread.php?p=39981#post39981 :tongue_smilie: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stangme428 33 Report post Posted July 19, 2008 stangme428 do you have any pics of your car? i'd love to see what you've already done so far, from what you have in your sig it sounds like a pretty wicked little car bnickel, i posted in the project progress forum.. http://www.1969stang.com/mustang/forum/showthread.php?p=39981#post39981 :tongue_smilie: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
