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do you happen to have any pics of the underside of the hood? i'd like to add them to my documentation of the 69 GT hoods i've been collecting. i'm particulary interested in if the hood has the opening for the scoop cut out or not. thanks

 

 

Thanks for the info...I found that last night and wasn't sure how to adjust the price. I'll definetly take your advice.

 

I have the pics you want, but on my home computer. I'll put them up when I get home from work. If memory serves there's a factory stamped outline of an opening that could be made if wanted. Almost like it's perforated so the opening is optional.

 

 

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Rich

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Thanks for the info...I found that last night and wasn't sure how to adjust the price. I'll definetly take your advice.

 

I have the pics you want, but on my home computer. I'll put them up when I get home from work. If memory serves there's a factory stamped outline of an opening that could be made if wanted. Almost like it's perforated so the opening is optional.

 

 

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Rich

 

 

i'd be willing to bet it has the same aluminum foil/ducting tape type stuff my car had originally. those pics would definitely be appreciated.

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i'd be willing to bet it has the same aluminum foil/ducting tape type stuff my car had originally. those pics would definitely be appreciated.

 

 

I have to apologize...I looked thru the pics I took over the weekend and I don't have any of the scoop opening. I can swing by the garage in the next few days after work and get the shot you're looking for.

 

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I have to apologize...I looked thru the pics I took over the weekend and I don't have any of the scoop opening. I can swing by the garage in the next few days after work and get the shot you're looking for.

 

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ok, that would be great if you don't mind, thanks.

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is this car still for sale?? if so can i come and see it??

 

I am a motivated buyer and have cash.

 

-andy

 

 

if he isn't still selling his i've got a 69 GT coupe that i'm ready to sell. it's already completey done though and i'll be asking $30k for it. there are some pics in my gallery and i'll be adding some more soon, hopefully today.

 

 

here's a link to my gallery;

http://www.1969stang.com/gallery/bnickel69gt

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Do you have a marty report on the GT coupe, How Many were produced.

 

 

i don't have a Marti but i do have the Ford 999 report which confirms it is a true GT, but the previous 2 owners were both women and the second owner was the original owner's little sister. there were around 1500 or so GT coupes made and about the same number of verts, there were more fastbacks made than coupes and vert combined. Marti claims there were around 6500 total GT's made in 69 but i don't think those numbers are entirely accurate, because they include all cars that got the GT equipment package which could also be ordered on other car like the Mach 1 which basically gave the car an upgraded suspension and a few oth GT's other standard features but did not make the car an actual GT with the gas cap, wheels and center caps, GT gas cap and hood scoop and hood pins. but who am i to argue with Marti. the number i believe is accurate is the one that Ford published forever and that is 4973. similarly according to Mart there some 4000 69 Cougar GT's made in both standard and XR7 versions when in actuality there really weren't any "true" GT cougars made in 69 but rather all these cars had the GT equipment group exactly like what i'm talking about with the 69 mustang GT, it would also explain why there more fastbacks than coupes and verts combined too, as ordering the GT option on a mach 1 gave you an upgraded suspension and a few other little things but mainly the upgraded suspension which was NOT standard on the Mach 1

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here is an excerpt from another thread we had on this very topic.

 

here is the info i posted once before about the GT hood cutouts and what i believe was a planned ram air system that never materialized.

 

i beleive i have uncovered a new discovery in the mustang archeology field. after a little websearching it is my belief that ford had some sort of ram air system planned for all 69 GT's. what leads me to this belief is that almost every 69 GT i have seen has had an opening stamped in it from the factory under the "non-functional hood scoop". on my car this opening was covered from the factory with aluminum duct tape. after looking at the pics of the cars on the 69 GT registry site, it became obvious that all of the cars there that the hood open, had this same opening. what i need from you guys is simply an email stating that your car also has this same opening, and if possibel the vin, if you don't want to the vin, that's ok i understand, also if you do own a 69 GT and haven't yet registered it with the 69 GT registry please do, it is free to register your car. here is a link to the site http://gt69registry.home.comcast.net/

 

i have also emailed the owner of the 69 GT registry, Bart Boster as well as mustang monthly, mustang and fords with my "find" and my hypothosis. Bart is also aware that most of the 69 GT's had this hood but he didn't have any more than i do at this point. here is a copy of the email i sent to mustang monthly and mustang and fords, which also includes the original email conversation between Bart and myself.

 

Hi, my name is Bryan Nickel I live in Lubbock, Tx. i have a 1969 Mustang GT and think i have a rare find for you. My car has the "non-functional hood scoop" as did all 69 GT's, however my car has a factory hole cut in the bottom of the hood, it is smaller than the opening for a shaker and actually has the same dimensions as the hole that the service replacement hoods had but the "x" cut out. I know it is factory because when i purchased the car in 1984 from the original owner this hole was covered by the factory with aluminum duct tape. I recently registered my car on the 69 GT registry and was looking at the pictures of other cars on the site and noticed that almost everyone that the hood open had that same hole cut out. i emailed the owner of the regsitry, Bart Boster and asked he if had any info on this or if he had any contacts for researching this and he emailed me back and said he had noticed the same thing but he didn't have any more info on it either. My hypothosis is that ford had some kind of ram air system planned for these cars and scrapped it after production of the hoods began. i was wondering if you guys had info that would be helpful or any contacts that might know of any possibilities. below is a copy of the email conversation between myself and Bart Boster i have also copied Bart on this email, i know he has been very busy and hasn't had a lot of time for the site lately, so i would be glad have my email address listed for contact info if it's okay with you guys, thanks.

 

 

and here is the thread where i posted the info on stangent, for some reason i can't find that thread on this site anymore, amybe i'm just not searching right.

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i've been cataloging as many of these as i can find, when i come across them and will likely continue to do so even after my car is sold. we have determined that ford probably canned the standard ram air system on the GT in favor of the optional shaker scoop, probably the bean counters getting thei way. either that or one of the suppliers just couln't meet the demand of so many parts. i'm betting on the shaker alternative, personally. still though it was rather convenient of them leaving the hoods on the car so folks like us could build our own ram air system.

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i don't have a Marti but i do have the Ford 999 report which confirms it is a true GT, but the previous 2 owners were both women and the second owner was the original owner's little sister. there were around 1500 or so GT coupes made and about the same number of verts, there were more fastbacks made than coupes and vert combined. Marti claims there were around 6500 total GT's made in 69 but i don't think those numbers are entirely accurate, because they include all cars that got the GT equipment package which could also be ordered on other car like the Mach 1 which basically gave the car an upgraded suspension and a few oth GT's other standard features but did not make the car an actual GT with the gas cap, wheels and center caps, GT gas cap and hood scoop and hood pins. but who am i to argue with Marti. the number i believe is accurate is the one that Ford published forever and that is 4973. similarly according to Mart there some 4000 69 Cougar GT's made in both standard and XR7 versions when in actuality there really weren't any "true" GT cougars made in 69 but rather all these cars had the GT equipment group exactly like what i'm talking about with the 69 mustang GT, it would also explain why there more fastbacks than coupes and verts combined too, as ordering the GT option on a mach 1 gave you an upgraded suspension and a few other little things but mainly the upgraded suspension which was NOT standard on the Mach 1

 

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i can't help it, there's so much info stuck in my head that it just has to come out sometime or my head will explode :biggrin:

 

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