69 Barn Find- Multiple Issues! Will post here.....Operation TimeWarp! Questions and Want List!

[fastmerc 0]

EDIT 10/13-  Updates.....in bold.

OK this car barely survived the 80's let alone the next 40 years being shuffled from one garage to the next to the next.    40 years ago I stored this car in my driveway while he went off to work in China..... It's not back in a different driveway of mine.....difference being now the car is mine!!!   But WOW!!! What a mistreated car!

This is a very early car from San Jose.    Date on dash cluster was July of 68.   Need to get door tag date....it's painted over....don't want to try and strip paint and ruin silk screening.   Originally had an XXY black and gold series plate.  (My old 68 XR7, also a San Jose car, March built I believe, had a XLH series black and gold plate)       302 automatic, with console (goners!) and power steering as the only options I can find were on the car. Not sure if fold down rear seat was an option or standard feature in the Sportroof model.

The car started as the medium metallic blue color, very nice when fresh, but was color changed to British Racing Green and black interior......   SH*TTY paint job......lifting all over......  Seats are presently 67 lowbacks, originals are in boxes, all torn up from being left out in weather, and I have a set of Mach1 seats in not so perfectly nice at all condition, still in the very same boxes that I shipped them to my buddy back in about 1984-1988???   (Along with tilt steering conversion, power disc brake conversion, and a Mustang style hood scoop with lights....)

The entire car has  or did have loose fasteners on just about everything! Body, chassis, and interior!!! UNSAFE car to drive for a while.....my buddy fixed some with the chassis but that's it.    I swear that the dash was taken apart, perhaps windshield replacement at some time....and ALL of the fasteners were dumped in a pile.  Only 10% were reused in the wrong locations, and rest were all replaced with generic hardware store Phillips 3/4-1"" screws.....some got painted black.  I SCOURED thru several containers of fasteners from several Cougars that I had dismantled over the years, 69 & 70, which I've picked thru working on various projects and this one was no different!  I barely scratched together what I think are the proper screws to reassemble the dash inserts and the dash pad itself, and the associated outlying trim pieces.  

But I still have questions....about others AND the rear fold down seat!   I haven't even begun to look at that yet, but I think 50% of the screws, fasteners, and latches, or catches are missing or falling apart.......

Engine was rebuilt, but I really question quality of the job.   I got it running after removing some distributor advance lock out device, replaced the cap/wires/plugs, installed an engine ground to body connection(!), found some used Flowmasters on a shelf for it (still needs regular tail pipes, new fuel tank and sender....and now she runs nicely!   Just did a heater core and would have loved to post pic's but alas.....not yet!

Also added a glove box light from a 69/70 Cougar XR7, and repaired horrible ignition pigtail wiring replacement plus atrocities committed against the under dash wiring harness, repaired radio wiring, but still need a 68/69 radio.   While it was open, I added 69 front speaker wiring and tilt-away steering wheel harnesses and tucked them away for future use.

I want to present questions and also wants in this post....... so here goes!

IGNITION SWITCH LIGHT:    When I pull light switch to first "parking lamp" position, the IGN SW Lamp turns on.   I think it dims....but need to check when it gets dark.    When I turn the lights on, switch full out, the IGN switch lamp goes out.   IS THIS NORMAL MUSTANG THING?   Brian below posts that this is correct.

PRNDL SHIFTER BEZEL LAMP:  Does this operate in both Park and Lights positions?    Need to check when dark again.....   I think someone else verified that the PRNDL light is on in both switch positions, park and lights.

FASTENER:  STANDARD HEATER- what sort of fastener goes in the hole at the top of the heater box, bottom of the defroster duct, which holds the defroster vents in place to the top of the heater box?   Screw or some sort of clip!    If I could post a pic....would be nice.   PUSH PIN Style of fastener.  Back to my stash to dig.......

FASTENERS:   What type of screws hold the top windshield header trim piece in place?   Oval head Phillips with chrome or ??? finish???    Again, pics would be nice......    Mine are all D headed yet holes look tapered....   Tapered head Phillips!   Natural or phosphate treated...not chrome.

SHOPPING LIST:

1) Seat refurb kit

2) 7/8" Front Sway bar

3) Got one coming!       Ash tray housing for NO Console.  All you console converters..you've got one rattling around in your drawers, boxes, or hanging on a nail. You'll never revert....  my console is MIA don't want one.  Got a nice one!  However when I put it in, the light woudn't work!   Bad ground from main case of ashtray to tin shelf that is riveted in place with 4 small rivets.    "Re-set" the rivets with a dull center punch, steel piece to back the head up, and small ball peen hammer did the trick!     One could also solder one of the rivets with a BIG soldering iron and rosin core wire, but you would need to clean the excess rosin off the joint when done to prevent oxidation there!         Installed and now working!    Ash tray itself is soaking in Evapo-Rust to get rid of the scarfy rust that came in the tray I got with the car.  Looking much better after one day....let it soak another,  should be good to go today!!!

4) 68-70 AM-FM Radio

5) Front speaker wiring in doors- Cougar XR7 will be best source.

6) Steering Column Trim: Vinyl plastic "gap filler"... the piece that goes around column and fits at the top, into the dash cluster, then around the bottom where it fits into the lower column plastic cover.  Don't know what all to call it, but I do know it is NOT the same as the 69 Cougar.   Just ordered new pieces for Fastbacks.....easier than trying to find a used one....which may or may not be proper. Indeed these pieces are unique to fastback models.   Convert and coupes got different pieces due to only two column spacers installed.....where fastbacks got an extra two in order to lower the steering wheel about a half inch or so..... was always hitting me in the thighs......need to install tilt wheel!!!  Then put the spacers back in place.

7) HAD MY BUDDY CHECK HIS MACH1 TIME WARP PROJECT.  NO SWITCH!  MAY HAVE HAD "ADD ON" LIKE SEEN IN 65-66'S?   Did the 69 Mustangs ever come with the PARKING BRAKE WARNING LIGHT?   I was under the dash the other day pulling the parking brake handle mechanism, to fix the handle return spring, and noticed that there was no switch mounted on it! Never had one!     Was looking in the Ford 69 Electrical Drawings for Mustang/Cougar and could not find that switch in the circuits! One drawing showed it's location in the harness/body, but no circuits/switch were shown!   Found it in the Cougar wiring......barely.....

Also ordered an NOS trunk light for 69 Galaxie I found for sale....extra long wire.....can plug into expansion plug at fuse block.....   Good price, under $25 ish shipped.    Can bend up the bracket if she donna work properly!

8)  I could use a picture of a rear catch for the trap door!  Nothing in my car but the latch on the door, and 4 holes in the tin where the catch would be!   Are there supposed to be springs in the rear seat side latches with the big knobs?   Still need a picture of this area.   I did order a new catch.  Repops look good.    But still don't know what the extra wide pattern holes are for.....

9) Will reserve this space for more which is likely to come!!!!

OK, I'll stop here for the day!   Thanks for looking!  Will update post as I roll....... Please feel free to message me via this board.   I also haunt the other large Mustang site...
Thanks for looking!
Steve

[Brian Conway 272]

Ign. switch light. The operation you describe is normal. Brian

[EastYorkStang 68]

What does it look like, pictures. 

[fastmerc 0]

I didn't think that pictures worked yet......  I'm not hosting anywhere.......used to do that....tech fixed that need......now we're going backwards?

Tried a small pic for shites and giggles....nope, not happening here!    Need go to that other VeryMuchFord site......I've posted a thread there also.....

Thanks for asking!
Steve

[Mach1 Driver 597]

You can say VMF without being banned. We all spend most of our time over there now anyway, since we haven't had pictures here in the last two years. RIGHT GUYS?

Maybe Ben will see this and finally do something about it? Who am I kidding

[fastmerc 0]

Nice to know there is still some civility left on this third rock!  Thanks!

S