Alexng93 5 Report post Posted August 17 I ran across this.. Mach 1 mustang, it is a barn find project, has been in the same garage for 30 years.Will need a driver door, fender, and quarter panel repair from sliding in a ditch a long time ago Original m code 351w 4 speed car. It doesn’t have the original matching engine but they do have a 1970 model 351 engine To go in it and can find a four speed for you. (I am sure that’s extra) Full interior is there, Will need a windshield, and roof repair from a dent. Will need full restore but good bones with a clean title. They are asking $10,000 for it. I am thinking $7000-$8500 This is a lifer car and wherever it takes me and my wallet. Welp. I just want to know if this is a golden opportunity. I know these cars are becoming increasingly rare. I don’t want to miss my shot to own one and hold as long as I can. Tried attaching pictures not letting me. Picture the red type car with black hood. The dents are where they said. No glass. It definitely screams 1969 mach1 so it’s in that pretty good of shape at least. Engine bay looks healthy. No engine in the pics. Guess that makes my life easier for right now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alexng93 5 Report post Posted August 17 https://ibb.co/DzBG7Rn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alexng93 5 Report post Posted August 17 https://ibb.co/ykrKgTx https://ibb.co/1XLW4vm https://ibb.co/xGPCP52 luckily I found a post explaining the uploading of pics. Hope these give yall some insight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RPM 1,232 Report post Posted August 17 Welcome to the forum. That's a bit much for my level of energy, I hope you're a young buck. Ya, I wouldn't offer the full $10k either. Are you close enough to inspect the car? Before doing anything else, I'd have the owner send a pic of the data plate on the driver door jamb. From the info on the data plate you can input the info here and find out what the car had installed at the factory. https://www.cjponyparts.com/resources/1969-mustang-vin-decoder Many Mustangs no longer have the data plate or the original door. Mach 1 has a body code of 63C. For a more complete story of that car, you can get a Marti report here: https://www.cjponyparts.com/resources/1969-mustang-vin-decoder https://www.martiauto.com/martireports.cfm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alexng93 5 Report post Posted August 17 I am close. 115 miles close. I will make sure I get all of that. Looks like there’s potential. I know I will be setting on it for a long time slowly working on it if I do go this route. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kblagron 28 Report post Posted August 17 And a costly route. I just finished my 70 Mach 1 that was in better shape (already disassembled, bead blasted, new metal installed where needed) and the cost to restore from that point was more than the cost of the car now. I did all of the work except the paint. I was not looking at it as an investment, just a hobby to keep me busy, so I had no problems with that. From where you are right now, it will take some money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alexng93 5 Report post Posted August 17 It's either I look at it as keeping it alive or don't mess with it all. It just feels so worth it. Not for a return for value, but a return for the smiles, tears, and blood that I will put into this. I'm 31 so the car will stay with me forever and for now I have some type of energy to do the work myself. 1 RPM reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
69RavenConv 301 Report post Posted August 17 Welcome. That car looks like could probably be saved, but as pointed out, it's going to take a lot of work and money. I'd offer less than $10K, since there's no drivetrain and nearly all the sheet metal is bad. As mentioned above, confirm it' what it's advertised to be, not all fastbacks are Mach 1's. It sounds like you've got the right attitude, it's gotta be a labor of love because you will end up upside down on the money and time invested but it can be rewarding if you end up with an old Mustang you enjoy. Not trying to discourage you but go in with your eyes open and know it's going to be a long haul. 2 Alexng93 and RPM reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alexng93 5 Report post Posted August 18 Yeah, thanks to these forums and my experience with the 71 coupe and 77 corvette my eyes are definitely open. I feel like it's golden opportunity to own a very iconic car and year model. I would be happy with just getting it back on the street rolling safely little by little. 2 69RavenConv and RPM reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ridge Runner 1,146 Report post Posted August 18 I would check the frame rails over well ,that is a major job if you have to replace those ,the rest of it isn't bad to replace if you can weld and measure . Measure everything before you ever remove anything . I built a 66 fast back from scratch ,using dynacorn parts of course ,but I had measurements from another fastback 1 Alexng93 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmlay 90 Report post Posted August 18 That car is pretty rough from the pictures. I would def go look at it before working any deal. I think your going to find it is worse than the pictures, they really don’t show much. My car was a solid car to start with. I did not need to get into the structure to repair rust. However, it had previous crash damage that took a bit of work. Fortunately I purchased for a great price long before skyrocketing prices in the last few years. It is out of paint now and I’m going to have quite a bit of $ and effort in it before I’m driving. All this to say you should buy the best car you can find, period. You will thank yourself later! 3 RPM, kblagron and Alexng93 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alexng93 5 Report post Posted August 18 I will definitely keep looking unless when I go see it I like what I see. First time I seen one priced around that, which I may give him close to that if he provides that 1970 351, and if it is indeed a Mach1. I may give him $10000 if he provides the 4 speed as well, but just the body as is with no drivetrain $7500 is my offer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmlay 90 Report post Posted August 19 Still seems high to me at $7500, with drivetrain. But I may be out of touch on the post Covid prices. 1 RPM reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alexng93 5 Report post Posted August 19 I will keep that in my mind. Maybe look into starting the negotiations at $5000. I tried the same thing with this other guy that had another m code Mach 1 69.. No obvious dents with drivetrain. Can’t remember if it was numbers matching. Pretty much same shape been sitting out in the elements.. Pretty rusted out in need of a full restoration. His asking price was 18,000… I explained the condition of the car which was not the greatest at all. Every one seems to say their cars that they are selling has “solid bones”… so once I explained my reasoning and offered him 6k respectively. He apparently felt insulted and said I know nothing about Mach1’s and if I couldn’t pay up stick to coupes and proceeded to block me. 1 RPM reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alexng93 5 Report post Posted August 19 I got more pictures of Frankenstein. https://ibb.co/1KtQLvZ https://ibb.co/2Z77FmR https://ibb.co/PgbBpnM https://ibb.co/mXFDbWV https://ibb.co/Jqm5nM2 https://ibb.co/RDCxPms https://ibb.co/x51h96K https://ibb.co/C2Z7R5Q https://ibb.co/hWjHPGZ https://ibb.co/pWC8Jzx https://ibb.co/mSJSsWY https://ibb.co/PhPctX1 https://ibb.co/C65cLQt https://ibb.co/k0RQ5TS https://ibb.co/LdtKq9t Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kblagron 28 Report post Posted August 19 I think you could be going down a rabbit hole that if it was me, I would want to avoid. You should be able to find a good roller for not too much above that price without all the rust and dings. Just my thought. Since you're young, maybe you want it to be a long term project, but I would want something in better shape unless you like doing a lot of body work. You might check out this post on VMF, he went down a similar path: https://www.vintage-mustang.com/threads/1970-convertible-build-351w-4sp-toploader-9-rear.1168598/#replies 1 Alexng93 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alexng93 5 Report post Posted August 19 https://ibb.co/R2Q1WQc So something like this yall? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmlay 90 Report post Posted August 19 Unable to see the image. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ridge Runner 1,146 Report post Posted August 20 13 hours ago, Alexng93 said: https://ibb.co/R2Q1WQc So something like this yall? I would check that one out ,i just sold my next to the last 69 for 15000,only difference was it was a roller,it was very clean though 1 kblagron reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RPM 1,232 Report post Posted August 20 6 hours ago, jmlay said: Unable to see the image. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alexng93 5 Report post Posted August 20 I found a 1970 mach1 roller with a Marti report. Way more clean than the others I was looking at. No drivetrain.. Comes with a 9 in rear end and drive shaft though. Full interior and quarter skins. Needs a frame patch as well under battery box. He did the floor panels. Asking $8500 Not a 69, but a 70.. Still very appealing. https://ibb.co/gVVrySV https://ibb.co/xqrWC9d https://ibb.co/h7vPqYY https://ibb.co/wWj5tp8 https://ibb.co/1JCn82F https://ibb.co/2dcRVnh https://ibb.co/SP7rRzS https://ibb.co/WKQPRXq https://ibb.co/t2Ffr25 https://ibb.co/gD4LSNJ https://ibb.co/q7MsKLR 1 Ridge Runner reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mach1 Driver 587 Report post Posted August 23 Just one thing you my not be aware of; the engine offered in 69 was a 351w (Windsor), and is different than the 70 351c (Cleveland). You should look up the differences. The 351c was more high performance back in the day, but only made for 5 years, so parts are a bit pricy. It seems like everyone makes performance upgrades for the 351w, which was in production from 69 to 96. 1 1 Alexng93 and kblagron reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grabber70Mach 108 Report post Posted August 29 On 8/23/2024 at 10:16 AM, Mach1 Driver said: Just one thing you my not be aware of; the engine offered in 69 was a 351w (Windsor), and is different than the 70 351c (Cleveland). You should look up the differences. The 351c was more high performance back in the day, but only made for 5 years, so parts are a bit pricy. It seems like everyone makes performance upgrades for the 351w, which was in production from 69 to 96. Not all 70's came with Cleveland motors, I believe that the "H" code cars utilized 351W 2bbl motors until on hand stock was depleted. The "M" codes were all 351C 4bbl's. 1 RPM reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
