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The problem is its too pretty to take off-road! Overall, i like the concept...it at least adds functionality to the car. (rather than, "Can't be driven in rain, or on roads that twist.") Not for everyone, but I like it.
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Thank you so much for the hard work, inspiration and vision Mr. Shelby. I was kinda proud that my teenage son was struck silent by your passing. He doesn't have many heroes-but you were one.
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That sounds like one of those deals he should probably pay you to take it. Sure, it was a great engine once, but years in the barn after being in the 'pullin' truck' have reduced it value to just above scrap. If money weren't an issue, I'd say cut him the grand before you sank 4 grand into it. If you can't do that monetarily, I'd find some other option.
And you may have to alter your pony significantly to even get it to fit. (BB shock towers, right?) I'm not an expert on BBF, but I think that's how it works.
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I'd start with a floorpan, and other 'hidden' body parts. (Interior wells, etc.) While you have the cash, it's a good time to do it.
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I think all GT Mustangs had dual exhaust. Looks like this one has single exhaust.Ding! Ding!
Idiot states "all original", where's the blue "Power by Ford" valve covers?ALL ORGINAL! Edelbrock Chrome Valve Covers and Air Filter! (Someone is not really clear on what AO means)
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Please tell me that the underhood coating is ceramic...
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Not sure where he got the production numbers from?How many did they make with "a motor and transmition?"
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Well, if you can find the time, I'd appreciate the look-see!
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I was looking for the stock set-up for the 69 302. I thought if you had any pics of the "before." At this point, I can't say if I'd need parts....
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Specifically, I was thinking about the distributor, and maybe some of the belt stuff you off. (PS if applicable) Thanks for checking!
A Fox, too? Are you gonna leave anything for the guys still looking for Mustangs? (You don't have to.)
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I'd love to see that 302 from the front, and the part# on the block, if it's not a hassle. Loooks awesome tho, Rev! Best of luck, again.
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WTF does "not my car to post" mean exactly? It's not as if we're talking about plagiarize-able material here. Would you take the same stance about posting pics you take on the street or at a show? Perhaps, but probably not.If a guy displays his car at a show, I would post the pics-if it's on the street in front of his house, I won't without permission. it's as simple as that. The last thing I would want is more blowback from telling people (some of) what he told me. Rest assured, we talked a lot, and he went into a few other things that don't relate to the 69 Mach 1, I didn't get too deep into his collection, because I had just pulled over to meet the guy, and didn't want to seem like I was 'casing his stash'. He was very hospitable, he got in, started it up, then went right around and opened the hood. Do you do that for people who stopped to see how cool your car is? As we talked, I was very interested in his collection, but didn't want to run around, "Can I get a pic of that?" "Can I get a pic of that?" "Can I get a pic of that?" "Can I get a pic of that?" "Can I get a pic of that?"
There is nothing in posting the pics of the car that should cause the owner harm or damage, especially since you're not attempting to use it for profitable reasons. Your hesitance to post the VIN on the other hand is quite understandable, but it would be productive to get the Marti report of the vehicle to help clarify and resolve this discussion.You seem unaware that muscle car collecting is getting to be a rough game. There are people who would pull whatever they needed to acquire whatever they wanted. (I don't believe a lot-if any- of this goes on at 69stang, but check VMF. Mr. Marti had a very displeased customer who claimed Mr. Marti "shifted" the numbers on his car to make it appear common, then had a lady in his office call the customer to make an offer to buy it at a steal! I don't know the validity of the guy's claims, but I am not taking that risk with this guy's car, or mine.)
As for what part of my argument is "obvious and or (sic) non-sensical" is not obvious to me. If you're implying there is some ruse in my post, I promise you there is not. I'm not trying to be provocative or challenging, I was simply stating my perspective, where assertions made without support or proof are readily and promptly dismissed, as are those that make them until such point as they are able and willing to provide support or proof of their assertions. This is the way it works for people who operate in any field of consequence with integrity, though much of the world (and especially the internet) seems to be willing to forgo or simply avoid it outright.We all can tell 'big fisherman' stories about guys who claim their car was something that, for whatever reason, it was not. But even if you have a million of those stories, you can't discount one that (I admit) you haven't heard all of. I know which equipment he said the car shipped with, I just haven't said so. Like I said, Not really my car to post, or tell stories about. I've given enough info that, even in 20 years, if anyone on this board sees or hears of this car-they will recognize it.
the existence of such a car is fairly inconsequential.Yeah, one-off special orders are as common as cake. :helpsmilie:
The guys stories are probably worth more than the car, whether they're true or not.Maybe, but if true, it may be worth more than some other Mach1's.
As for what part of my argument is "obvious and or (sic) non-sensical" is not obvious to me.This part: Do better next time.
Besides, how many of us have heard someone say every sportsroof is a Mach 1, or every Coupe with a vinyl top is a Grande? I know I have...I have not, and I would probably laugh at this nonsense. and by some folks that consider themselves very well informed and knowledgeable. Raise your hand if you think you are misinformed, and unknowledgable. They'll tell you that every Mach 1 was a 428 car and had a shaker hood. They'll tell you that they all got the front spoiler, sport slats, rear wing, and they're all worth $100k plus. Yep... and they'll tell you that the Shelby Mach 1s are the rarest and got 4:30 lockers. Keep your eyes out folks... that Shelby Mach 1 is out there. -
... I can't think of a single time when some new person has joined our group and we have yelled bullshit in their face and made them feel like they didn't belong.Here ya go...
it's just a stupid conversation being had by stupid people.But if, in fact, this car is legit, it is likely worth pursuing it and submitting it to one of the publications like Mustang Monthly. It would be an unusual and never-seen-before example. But for some reason, I highly doubt it would pass the fact-checking process....
Now lets see that VIN.
It's not my car to post, but I made sure to get a few pics. Most of your argument is obvious and or non-sensical, so I think it's just best to call it quits for you.
Bravo Truck, on trying to bring another member to the forums :)I did kinda think the Crew was being a bit tough, but did see the same thing in your initial post about "MAch 1 Grande ???....i too thought you were telling the story you had been told by some one who thought they had a gold mine or was a total boob....I had to go back and read the post again to see where you said he was in production...
I knew an old timer when i was in High School who owned nothing but Shelby's, and that was his business, hell he used to GIVE me parts for my 68 Coupe, you name it, if he had it and it wasnt shelby and i needed it it was mine....he was one of those that loved the cars and would help a fellow mustang guy out any way he could......one thing he told me was to never discount the odd stories, and always go to see about those far fetched sounding cars that friends of friends had for sale, this is how he found several of his shelby's....one of which was a 68 GT KR 500 Vert.
So i usually dont discount what the real old timers have to say, no matter how weird it sounds.
Another fellow i know now worked at ford in one of the Skunk Works Areas, and he has told me some funny stories about some really wild Shit ford did back in the day and still does today.......
Ever wonder how many Lbs of Nitrous a 460 on a 400 Shot will consume in a week before it finally lets go......I do :P and i have no reason to doubt the story is true.
We just need to try to be more tolerant of folks and the wild stories is all, just seems like we hear them more and more.
Mike
Thanks Mike, you see what I was trying to do. If the guy had been my age or younger, I would have posted it with a 'most likely BS' sort of thing. Since he is familiar with the car since it was special-ordered, I didn't. (The car is, apparently, on it's second owner-Don't think I thought a high-school kid could special order a Grande or a Mach 1 by working where he was.)
Really, showing up with a story of, " I seen a mustang, with a weird story." Doesn't make one special. But After looking over the buck tag and everything, "I seen a mustang with a weird story that passes the sniff test." Is a little different matter. I don't have the resources to get all "Quincy" with the investigation, but I have poured through enough photos of the 69/70 stang to say I can keep my head above water in the BS category.
Thanks again, if more members gave your reaction, we could probably get more old-timers to sign up. There's a huge generation gap, so when the guy said he didn't really want to fool around with the internet, I could hardly blame him.
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Well I think there is a world of difference between the scenario you describe and what actually happened. Maybe from your perspective that's how we appear but I can't think of a single time when some new person has joined our group and we have yelled bullshit in their face and made them feel like they didn't belong. We have one of the best group of people on the net IMHO and the friendliest forum to prove it.I know this is one of the best forums (and topics) on the net, that's why I'm here. I don't pretend to teach here, I'm here to learn. I wanted this guy to sign up so he could lend whatever expertise he has. These cars are getting very old, so the firsthand accounts of the production lines is getting harder and harder to come by. Anything other than what's in Mr. Marti's or Ms. Erlinger's books is rare, no? I'm not saying the guy would answer anyone's questions, but the short time I spent talking to him was very interesting. That's why I recomended you guys to him.
In defense, how many times have tails such as this proven to be right? Even before the internet the Mustang has been pretty well documented and certain things seem to be taken as hard given fact except for those extremly rare cases of test mules and protoypes that escaped the crusher. Anything is absolutely possible, hell Lochness and Bigfoot could be married for all I know but the odds are better that this is a case of selective memmory more than a rare odditiy, odds have been beaten many times though.Selective memory v. rare oddity? I really don't have odds on that subject. He obviously knew the 'outlandishness' of what he was saying...he wasn't just throwing words together that he found on the net.
... The car may not have been the focus of the story but when you close with something that seems incredulous what would you expect people to focus and comment on?I, for one, try to focus and comment on the focus of the story. Maybe I didn't read in the smilies, but you'd have to admit that no one had anymore reason to doubt the tale as told than to believe the tale, as told. (You do realize I told a flesh-and-blood person to log into a computer and find, 1969stang.com, right? A complete stranger I took the time to find and talk to, and I gave him this site. The only reason I did so was to make it better. Give me credit for that.)
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Well I think there is a world of difference between the scenario you describe and what actually happened. Maybe from your perspective that's how we appear but I can't think of a single time when some new person has joined our group and we have yelled bullshit in their face and made them feel like they didn't belong. We have one of the best group of people on the net IMHO and the friendliest forum to prove it.I know this is one of the best forums (and topics) on the net, that's why I'm here. I don't pretend to teach here, I'm here to learn. I wanted this guy to sign up so he could lend whatever expertise he has. These cars are getting very old, so the firsthand accounts of the production lines is getting harder and harder to come by. Anything other than what's in Mr. Marti's or Ms. Erlinger's books is rare, no? I'm not saying the guy would answer anyone's questions, but the short time I spent talking to him was very interesting. That's why I recomended you guys to him.
In defense, how many times have tails such as this proven to be right? Even before the internet the Mustang has been pretty well documented and certain things seem to be taken as hard given fact except for those extremly rare cases of test mules and protoypes that escaped the crusher. Anything is absolutely possible, hell Lochness and Bigfoot could be married for all I know but the odds are better that this is a case of selective memmory more than a rare odditiy, odds have been beaten many times though.Selective memory v. rare oddity? I really don't have odds on that subject. He obviously knew the 'outlandishness' of what he was saying...he wasn't just throwing words together that he found on the net.
... The car may not have been the focus of the story but when you close with something that seems incredulous what would you expect people to focus and comment on?I, for one, try to focus and comment on the focus of the story. Maybe I didn't read in the smilies, but you'd have to admit that no one had anymore reason to doubt the tale as told than to believe the tale, as told. (You do realize I told a flesh-and-blood person to log into a computer and find, 1969stang.com, right? A complete stranger I took the time to find and talk to, and I gave him this site. The only reason I did so was to make it better. Give me credit for that.)
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Hey Truck, most of us were just poking fun, relax:tongue_smilie:...I can try
Someone is a little uptight. I don't know what you think the pics will prove, but do post them up....I find it odd that you somehow believe this oldtimer yet you won't believe all of us. Plus that story makes no sense. "There was a strike so they made Mach1's with lots of luxary options"?I'm not going to waste the time posting pics with the inevitable "That's not True" BS that will follow, as I told Revhead, I'll try to relax, but the I'm not up for the attitude. I'm not sure if you remember 1969, but not a lot of it made sense. (And I have no idea what you'd call, 'sense' anyway. In my mind, offering options to get a leg up on the competition always makes sense.)
I'm struggling to figure out why you were suddenly so defensive as well Truck. That's not like you at all and I can't see where any replies merited that reaction especially when your original post ended in : (Also, turns out the car was a 351 Mach1 Grande...?!?!?!) Usually the alternating ? and ! denotes that dog twisting it's head sideways kind of a (hunh? a what?) thing.It was an unusual story about the car, but the car wasn't the focus of the story. The guy was actually in Ford Production in 1969. He wasn't a mover-and-shaker, but he knows about the 'curious, can't-be-real' cars that we're so quick to 'call BS' on. The main focus was getting the guy to post his story, not to offer him up to guys to call BS on his car.
His memory was foggy a time or two, but he had bits of knowledge that just added to the things we can't find on the internet. It would have been really nice to have a guy or two more around here who know (knew) what was going on at the time.
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No such thing as a Mach 1 Grande.Completely different body codes.
Wow. You guys sure know a lot about a conversation you weren't in.
(Had you asked about it, I would have told you that the car was ordered during the strike period, as Ford had to do something to support flagging sales. Why wait on a Ford when Dodge/Chevy had stuff ready to ship? The body style was Mach 1, but it had all sorts of goodies that Mach 1's didn't have-the luxury items that made the Grande so grand(e).)
Maybe it was better I didn't succeed. Sometimes old school beats the internet. Perhaps I should have apologized to him for suggesting you to him.
EDIT-Of Course, I got pics...glad I didn't waste my time posting them.
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post some photos when you get a chance.Yes.
Cool score, revhead, best of luck.
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If you could go back to the day you got your car and tell yourself one thing, what would it be?"Don't strip the paint until you're ready to repaint."
"Cleaning the cowl vents is a PITA!"
"Are those big plugs?"
"Check the floor for holes"
The list could go on....
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I was rolling through the next state over when I noticed a 69 sitting on the street. After I took care of business, I went back looking for it, and the owner.
Turns out the guy was integral in the 69 production, as he was just out of high school. He answered a lot of questions about my 69 302 without even knowing he did. The guy was a wealth of info-I tried to get him to sign up at 69stang, but he's an older, "Face-to-Face Only" guy, so he won't.
(Also, turns out the car was a 351 Mach1 Grande...?!?!?!)
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Probably the best idea yet. LOLI'm here to help....You gotta admit, the big question you drive any car is, "Why?" With the top(s) down, you get your answer really quickly. (To be grammatical, and junk.)
Hope it helped you get over your moment, you got a car of which there will be no more, so you know what you have to do.
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I'm at my wits end at this point. Sorry I just needed to vent, but I'm sure I'm not the only one that has been throught this or felt this way before.My solution would be-to keep your spirits up-sit the little woman in the passenger seat drop the top, sit in the driveway and open your favorite decanter of bourbon. (Not whiskey, not tequilla-those spirits will leave you in The Down Place.) After a night like this, your group will be able to see the ultimate destination. You, your wife, and your pony have to sort out the pecking order, as it were!
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True, true. Ethanol burns at a lower temp, too. I'm not surprised about the engine fire. If you had higher than E10, it's quite possible to start combusting before the gas reaches the intake!
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Yeah, they always give it to us 69 guys...wait..is that right?
Seriously, I gave my son the catalog so he can see how everything for 69 is at least double a 68, or a 71.
chop it, drop it, and oh stick a GT40 engine in it.
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It does look like a Riviera! but, isn't that where the engine is gonna go? I toyed with an idea like this...glad I didn't do it. Overall, I like it. It's not something I would do, but I can appreciate the skill, and the design. (even if I think the design could be better.)