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Well, here we are the day before Thanksgiving. Some of us are stuck at work, some are traveling, and others are already out in the garage being thankful for the horsepower that has been given them.
 
We will be closed tomorrow and Mike will be the only guy answering the phone Friday (7-3) and Saturday (8-1).  That's Pacific time, of course. You can also stop in for will calls. However, that's not the only way you can save.
 
We are not going to limit our sales to just one day, or just one weekend. All of the special pricing and discount codes are live NOW on our website.  They're good through December 31st. You can use them ordering online or over the phone.
 
 
CLICK HERE To View Sales and Discount Codes on Suspension and Chassis Components from Total Control Products!
 

Well, here we are the day before Thanksgiving. Some of us are stuck at work, some are traveling, and others are already out in the garage being thankful for the horsepower that has been given them.
 
We will be closed tomorrow and Mike will be the only guy answering the phone Friday (7-3) and Saturday (8-1).  That's Pacific time, of course. You can also stop in for will calls. However, that's not the only way you can save.
 
We are not going to limit our sales to just one day, or just one weekend. All of the special pricing and discount codes are live NOW on our website.  They're good through December 31st. You can use them ordering online or over the phone.
 
 
CLICK HERE To View Sales and Discount Codes on Suspension and Chassis Components from Total Control Products!
 

I thought some people on the forum might find this video interesting. Jason Lewis of AUTOedit Restorations initially made a small name for himself as the guy behind the Viper-powered Maverick and, later, the Formula Drift semi-truck video. We met him back in 2007 when he needed front suspension for that project.
 
Jason's latest project is a '73 Mustang coupe which he affectionately refers to as 'Large Marge.' He called me a couple weeks ago and we went over some options for the car. He just sent us a link to this video he put together of his install. Jason really puts together a great video; he keeps it interesting and can get technical without going super geeky.
Anyway, check out the video below and be sure to check out some of the other awesome videos on his YouTube channel HERE.


 
I was going to embed but couldn't find the correct BB code that works for this forum.

It works awesome! We have customers running it on daily drivers, pro-tourers, track day guys, and I have one customer who (with some chassis stiffening) is running 8.50s at the drag strip.

Well, here we are the day before Thanksgiving. Some of us are stuck at work, some are traveling, and others are already out in the garage being thankful for the horsepower that has been given them.
 
We will be closed tomorrow and Mike will be the only guy answering the phone Friday (7-3) and Saturday (8-1).  That's Pacific time, of course. You can also stop in for will calls. However, that's not the only way you can save.
 
We are not going to limit our sales to just one day, or just one weekend. All of the special pricing and discount codes are live NOW on our website.  They're good through December 31st. You can use them ordering online or over the phone.
 
 
CLICK HERE To View Sales and Discount Codes on Suspension and Chassis Components from Total Control Products!
 

Well, here we are the day before Thanksgiving. Some of us are stuck at work, some are traveling, and others are already out in the garage being thankful for the horsepower that has been given them.
 
We will be closed tomorrow and Mike will be the only guy answering the phone Friday (7-3) and Saturday (8-1).  That's Pacific time, of course. You can also stop in for will calls. However, that's not the only way you can save.
 
We are not going to limit our sales to just one day, or just one weekend. All of the special pricing and discount codes are live NOW on our website.  They're good through December 31st. You can use them ordering online or over the phone.
 
 
CLICK HERE To View Sales and Discount Codes on Suspension and Chassis Components from Total Control Products!
 

Well, here we are the day before Thanksgiving. Some of us are stuck at work, some are traveling, and others are already out in the garage being thankful for the horsepower that has been given them.
 
We will be closed tomorrow and Mike will be the only guy answering the phone Friday (7-3) and Saturday (8-1).  That's Pacific time, of course. You can also stop in for will calls. However, that's not the only way you can save.
 
We are not going to limit our sales to just one day, or just one weekend. All of the special pricing and discount codes are live NOW on our website.  They're good through December 31st. You can use them ordering online or over the phone.
 
 
CLICK HERE To View Sales and Discount Codes on Suspension and Chassis Components from Total Control Products!
 

Well, here we are the day before Thanksgiving. Some of us are stuck at work, some are traveling, and others are already out in the garage being thankful for the horsepower that has been given them.
 
We will be closed tomorrow and Mike will be the only guy answering the phone Friday (7-3) and Saturday (8-1).  That's Pacific time, of course. You can also stop in for will calls. However, that's not the only way you can save.
 
We are not going to limit our sales to just one day, or just one weekend. All of the special pricing and discount codes are live NOW on our website.  They're good through December 31st. You can use them ordering online or over the phone.
 
 
CLICK HERE To View Sales and Discount Codes on Suspension and Chassis Components from Total Control Products!
 

Well, here we are the day before Thanksgiving. Some of us are stuck at work, some are traveling, and others are already out in the garage being thankful for the horsepower that has been given them.
 
We will be closed tomorrow and Mike will be the only guy answering the phone Friday (7-3) and Saturday (8-1).  That's Pacific time, of course. You can also stop in for will calls. However, that's not the only way you can save.
 
We are not going to limit our sales to just one day, or just one weekend. All of the special pricing and discount codes are live NOW on our website.  They're good through December 31st. You can use them ordering online or over the phone.
 
 
CLICK HERE To View Sales and Discount Codes on Suspension and Chassis Components from Total Control Products!
 

RE Tire Sidewall: Barnett468 speaks the truth.  While the lower profile tires provide more predictable handling they do so at the sacrifice of ride compliance.  They transmit more noise, vibration, and harshness (commonly referred to as NVH) than a taller sidewall simply because they are much stiffer.  I like to think about the tire as another spring. Because it is a shorter spring it has to be stiffer to keep from bottoming out whereas a longer spring can be softer to absorb impacts over a greater distance.
 
Most new cars have fairly low profile tires, so I think we're kind of used to it at this point.  Granted, there's a big difference between handling like a new Mustang and a new Camry.  Thank God!
 
 
On a separate note: Yep, I'm here to talk about Total Control Products. Ya got me. :-) But I'm also here to help make sure that people get the parts they need and that they know how they work. And, more often than not, to dispel rumors and incorrect information. The average car guy can tell you all about the benefits of one cam vs another but doesn't know a whole lot about suspension.  I'm kind of the opposite.  I'm the last guy you want helping to build your engine, but I can help you tune the chassis package.
 
FVike told me about this forum when he called about fixing his Sportsroof a couple years ago. I stop in now and then to see how things are going on his build, and a couple others. Not nearly as often as I would like. 
 
I only field a handful of sales calls a day.  The rest of the time I spend answering tech emails, running our Facebook pages, and cruising the forums for questions and trying to provide some tech insight. Sorry if I've stepped on any toes in the process.

I really enjoyed this read and all the great advice.  I have been researching suspension upgrades for several years while my car has been worked on.  I have a friend that has a 67 Shelby Convertible clone that runs a 03-04 Cobra motor with a Griggs suspension.  Great ride and a lot of fun on the track.  He is now building a Bullitt clone with the TCP equipment and I have been thinking about going with their stuff for the quality and price.  I just did not know about all the new products they had over a basic coilover suspension.  My plans are to eventually go with a newer Coyote engine so the new subframe clip sounds like it might work for me.  
 
Great information on this thread and I wish everyone the best with their prospective builds.

RE Tire Sidewall: Barnett468 speaks the truth.  While the lower profile tires provide more predictable handling they do so at the sacrifice of ride compliance.  They transmit more noise, vibration, and harshness (commonly referred to as NVH) than a taller sidewall simply because they are much stiffer.  I like to think about the tire as another spring. Because it is a shorter spring it has to be stiffer to keep from bottoming out whereas a longer spring can be softer to absorb impacts over a greater distance.
 
Most new cars have fairly low profile tires, so I think we're kind of used to it at this point.  Granted, there's a big difference between handling like a new Mustang and a new Camry.  Thank God!
 
 
On a separate note: Yep, I'm here to talk about Total Control Products. Ya got me. :-) But I'm also here to help make sure that people get the parts they need and that they know how they work. And, more often than not, to dispel rumors and incorrect information. The average car guy can tell you all about the benefits of one cam vs another but doesn't know a whole lot about suspension.  I'm kind of the opposite.  I'm the last guy you want helping to build your engine, but I can help you tune the chassis package.
 
FVike told me about this forum when he called about fixing his Sportsroof a couple years ago. I stop in now and then to see how things are going on his build, and a couple others. Not nearly as often as I would like. 
 
I only field a handful of sales calls a day.  The rest of the time I spend answering tech emails, running our Facebook pages, and cruising the forums for questions and trying to provide some tech insight. Sorry if I've stepped on any toes in the process.

RE Tire Sidewall: Barnett468 speaks the truth.  While the lower profile tires provide more predictable handling they do so at the sacrifice of ride compliance.  They transmit more noise, vibration, and harshness (commonly referred to as NVH) than a taller sidewall simply because they are much stiffer.  I like to think about the tire as another spring. Because it is a shorter spring it has to be stiffer to keep from bottoming out whereas a longer spring can be softer to absorb impacts over a greater distance.
 
Most new cars have fairly low profile tires, so I think we're kind of used to it at this point.  Granted, there's a big difference between handling like a new Mustang and a new Camry.  Thank God!
 
 
On a separate note: Yep, I'm here to talk about Total Control Products. Ya got me. :-) But I'm also here to help make sure that people get the parts they need and that they know how they work. And, more often than not, to dispel rumors and incorrect information. The average car guy can tell you all about the benefits of one cam vs another but doesn't know a whole lot about suspension.  I'm kind of the opposite.  I'm the last guy you want helping to build your engine, but I can help you tune the chassis package.
 
FVike told me about this forum when he called about fixing his Sportsroof a couple years ago. I stop in now and then to see how things are going on his build, and a couple others. Not nearly as often as I would like. 
 
I only field a handful of sales calls a day.  The rest of the time I spend answering tech emails, running our Facebook pages, and cruising the forums for questions and trying to provide some tech insight. Sorry if I've stepped on any toes in the process.

Barnett, you stated that having a low profile tire *will* result in a rock hard ride. I say that is not true. I disagreed with the advice you gave the OP, and I let you and him know. That's all. This is a discussion board after all.
 
Since you are picking fights left and right here; I'll throw in this: I think it's great that TCP is reaching out to the online communities to tell us about their products. Of course they are looking to make a buck, but I don't see anything wrong with that. We as enthusiasts need the aftermarket industy to keep our cars on the road. There are other vendors on this board that does the same (MustangsToFear). I never seen anyone complain about them. In fact, I wish there was more companies that would do this. 
 
To the OP: Sorry your thread got messed up. We were all just trying to help. I hope you at least got some good info out of it.

there are plenty of kits but really at the end of the day it will be a lot of time and money to get it to feel like a new car. It all really depends on you budget and capabilities.
 
TCP (Total Control Products)is the fromt end I'll be using on mine. It's bolt in.
 
There are also kits that require fabrication such as removing the shock towers and welding in a new front setup.
 
What's your budget and capabilities?

oh and stay away from urethane strut rod bushings if you decide to go with them! just use rubber bushings. harder bushings will put stress on the strut rod and eventually it could snap. I know from first hand experience. 

Hey there,
While worn bushings are definitely concerning, a contributing factor to your alignment changes could be the eccentric adjuster in the lower control arm.  We recommend installing an Eccentric Eliminator kit which is essentially a lock-out for the lower control arm. I was going to paste a picture but it looks like we recently added a video the site.  CLICK HERE.
 
Swapping out the lower control arms isn't rocket science.  As long as you're careful when removing the coil spring it's relatively fool-proof. It's not a ten-second job, but it cam be accomplished with common tools. There are several sources for replacement OEM style arms that are reasonably priced and already have the bushings installed.  It's worth the extra couple bucks to just replace the arm as it's murder getting the bushings out.
 
However, while the car will handle better, it's not going to handle amazing.  It's still gonna have bump steer issues and dive for the ditch when you slam on the brakes.  The lower control arm and strut rod have huge rubber bushings that conspire to make the car 'safe' for the average driver and unpredictable for the spirited driver.  If you have considered upgrading the suspension in the past, now is the perfect time to do it.

Those look a lot like 70 Spindles. Stateside, TCP sells new Forged 70 and granada spindles. http://www.totalcontrolproducts.com/spindle.html

Well, here we are the day before Thanksgiving. Some of us are stuck at work, some are traveling, and others are already out in the garage being thankful for the horsepower that has been given them.
 
We will be closed tomorrow and Mike will be the only guy answering the phone Friday (7-3) and Saturday (8-1).  That's Pacific time, of course. You can also stop in for will calls. However, that's not the only way you can save.
 
We are not going to limit our sales to just one day, or just one weekend. All of the special pricing and discount codes are live NOW on our website.  They're good through December 31st. You can use them ordering online or over the phone.
 
 
CLICK HERE To View Sales and Discount Codes on Suspension and Chassis Components from Total Control Products!
 

+1 with 1969_Mach1 yes better than nothing, but NOT as good as an X-brace. I've always thought Maier is a decent Co., but $400 for that brace is making me think twice.
 
Edit, for $179 more look what you get from TCP. https://www.cachassisworks.com/p-1608-mustang-64-70-cougar-67-70-hardtop-g-connector-system-standard-torque-arm.aspx NO comparison strength wise.