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It's with mixed emotions that I've decided to put my 69 convertible up for sale / ebay. Car is located in Toronto, Canada. The car is an excellent driver, has 99k miles, featuring: - 302 V8 motor, mated to a C4 automatic transmission, no issues starting, you could daily drive this car. - Blue vinyl interior, complete with center console - White vinyl power top - Power disc brakes added up front - Rim blow steering wheel - AM Radio - 17 inch eagle alloys polished torque thrust style wheels. I also have a set of 14" Mach1 Style Rally Wheels, which can be swapped upon buyer's request. - Deluxe Marti Report Link to the ebay listing. So far no bids, if somebody from here wants to make me an offer before I get any bids, I'm willing to sell for $24,500. http://www.ebay.com/itm/291670104350?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

It's ebay's "Global Shipping Program"..... Seller offers free shipping within US (whether they realize it or not, another story)... Ebay shows you the cost for them for them to act as a middle-man. You pay sales tax + shipping fees to pitney bowes. The nice thing about it -- is no UPS brokerage fee when the item shows up.

Did you do the power rack as well? or manual?

Great. Seems like that's the direction I'm leaning... they seem to be the best price out there when you consider that everything is included. Which ididit column did you use?

I've read that a borgeson box doesn't work with a tilt column, is that true or a myth?

Interesting... what tilt column did you use? any regrets with the system? How did it impact turning radius?

As far as I understand, the car is completely as equipped in 1969 from a steering perspective... no tilt... manual steering.

Did you convert to power at the time?

Does anyone here have experience with the rack & pinion retrofit kits out there?

Yeah, I'm leaning towards modernizing.... the question is, Yeah, I'm leaning towards modernizing with Rack & Pinion, but also am getting a bit of sticker shock on the price tag... Seems like the rack kits are approximately $2000, add a tilt column and it's another $500, plus what else is required to fit a power rack to a non-PS car?

That's too bad.. can you give me the quick rundown? How much fabrication was involved? Did you put in a power rack, or manual rack? Was your car power or manual before? Did you have to replace the steering column? Also, I may have access to a rack from a 2005 Mustang... would that be an appropriate base?

I guess this is a real newbie question, but what is a "J car" rack? Is it a power rack? or just rack & pinion?

Thanks Bob, I guess I should've put that info in as well. My mechanic skills are pretty much limited to bolt-in installations, and I don't have a lift... if I need to get my mechanic to do the conversion though, that is something I'm prepared to do. In terms of money, my preference is to not spend $2000 after it's all said and done, but I want to do it right, and put something in something that I'm not going to be pulling out in a couple of years. I don't care at all about originality, as my eventual / gradual plans are to resto-mod the car into a pro-touring style. Also, if I can find a system that helps eliminate the "slack" in the stock system, I certainly wouldn't mind that as well. Jason

Hello All, I'm new to the Classic Mustang world, having just picked up a 1969 302 Automatic Acapulco Blue Convertible! It's an older restoration (~10 years) but has been kept in impeccable shape. The car is a pretty base car, but was upgraded with power brakes (front discs) when the restoration was done. Having now completed some reasonable driving with the car, one thing that I think requires some immediate attention is some form of power steering... so my question is, what are the common / reccomended retrofits? I know there's a couple of electric kits out there for ~$1500, the Saturn Vue electric retrofit for ~$200, and I'd imagine a bunch more using traditional power steering pumps. My goal is really to improve everyday street livability, and also hopefully gain a tilting column in the process.

Thanks for all the help guys. Here's what I've got: Dash tag is visible, matches. (I guess i just didn't notice it before) Door tag is obviously visible, and what I was going off initially. He's got an album of the restoration of the car, including a picture of the vin from when the fender was off. I'm reasonably satisfied, even though I am still having trouble understanding why somebody would put a total v6 drivetrain into a v8 car...

This is not a line of thinking that I can grasp.... :)

Ok. So the VINs I'm looking for are: -Driver Door Tag - verified. -Tag near the passenger side hood hinge, or on the rad support near the battery. -On the dash driver side (where modern cars have their vin?) -- Will it be visible without removing dash pad? -One under the passenger side fender (car is in a restored condition so I doubt the fender is coming off).

So, I just got off the phone with our version the DMV. Apparently, they looked up the VIN in one of their systems (Veena?) and confirmed that it was an 8. It could've been changed by simply stating it was a 6 during one of the vehicle's transfers, and the government of ontario has history on it back to 1976. So I guess there's one of 2 possibilities here: 1. The car was born a 6, re-vinned (stolen?), and sold later as a v6. When registering, somebody would've put 6cyl, and it got changed. 2. The 8 was replaced with a 6 way back... and then re-replaced with an 8 more recently. My first instinct, even though this guy seems quite trustworthy (an older gentleman, I saw the car at his home), is option 1 -- who replaces an 8 with a 6??? But, according to the dataplate, trans is 1 which would be 3 speed manual. I didn't check to see what the transmission he had on the floor was, but he did have an extra toruqe converter sitting on the shelf... obviously manual trans means no torque converter. Second thought, if this car had been re-vinned, I'm assuming I should run, right? The fact that it seems he's had this car for 10 years doesn't make up for that? Also, would it be possible to post pictures of exactly where I should be looking for the vin? A bit confused as to whether the passenger side fender needs to be pulled in order to see it.

Thanks. That's helpful and I'll keep it handy next time I go look at the car. My other question is, assuming that the VIN's do match, what's the plausible story here?

Sorry about that confusion... force of habit, he has an inline 6 engine sitting on the floor. It's painted blue and looks like hell, so I had no reason to question it. Looking at some youtube videos, I believe it's an 8 inch from what I remember when I looked under the car (no protrusion for ring gear).... but assuming that these VINs do all line up, what's the likely situation here?

Hi Everyone, First post here, i'm actually looking at buying a 1969 Mustang Convertible... and have run into an interesting question. The current owner has had it for about about 12 years, and he had it restored close to 10 years ago. He has a ton of pictures and reciepts from the restoration. He claims that when it was a v6, and he's upfront about the fact that he put a 302 in it at the time; having to swap the transmission, driveshaft, and rear axle as well to accomodate the 302. He still has the v6 engine, tranny, and DS sitting on the floor of his garage Here's the interesting / confusing thing; the VIN # is 9F03F, which as far as I understand, corresponds to a 302.car. So, my thought process would be that at some point somebody blew the original 302, and replaced it with a 6... but if that were done, why would the axle need to be swapped? Adding one more layer of confusion, the Ontario (Canada) registration lists # of Cylinders as 6. So could this be an incorreclty coded car? My other thought, would be that this is a re-VINed car, but that wouldn't explain why it's listed as a 6cyl on the registration/title.